Jetboot Jack Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 54 minutes ago, MarquisDeSang said: 1 Arrow pointing at a crack in the joystick. 3 Arrows pointing at nothing visible This is not proof, but speculations. Are they real buttons or a typo on their webpage? Imaginary buttons are not enough for me. Nothing imaginary - the 7 buttons plus fire and stick are there just as stated, and shown... https://retrogames.biz/products/thecxstick/ sTeVE Edited January 24 by Jetboot Jack added url Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarquisDeSang Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 You must have super powers, because I don’t see them. Am I supposed to believe things I cannot see? We will see soon as the product release. If you are right, I will build a shrine in your honour on top of the highest mountain of my land. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I assume the extra buttons would map to common keyboard keys? Start / Select Option Space Bar (Pause in many games) 1,2,3,4 - Needed by Miner 2049er to operate the lifts. Return - some games use this Sounds like more than 8 buttons may be required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) I genuinely don't understand you @MarquisDeSang it seems perfectly clear how the stick functions, and where the extra buttons are, as @Albert has said... And from that URL: Access game functions through the unique four-position button ring Additional action and function buttons discretely incorporated into the corner and rear Edited January 24 by Jetboot Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, zzip said: I assume the extra buttons would map to common keyboard keys? Start / Select Option Space Bar (Pause in many games) 1,2,3,4 - Needed by Miner 2049er to operate the lifts. Return - some games use this Sounds like more than 8 buttons may be required? Just like TheC64 mini you use the onscreen keyboard (useless for miner 2049'er IMHO) maybe, or like the A500 mini you can create custom mappings whenever you like for whatever game you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, MarquisDeSang said: You must have super powers, because I don’t see them. Am I supposed to believe things I cannot see? We will see soon as the product release. If you are right, I will build a shrine in your honour on top of the highest mountain of my land. Are you trolling? Because that's what it feels like now. The product pages clearly state there are eight buttons. Four of them are on the ring around the joystick. The other four buttons are very clearly visible in the photos. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Jetboot Jack said: Just like TheC64 mini you use the onscreen keyboard (useless for miner 2049'er IMHO) maybe, or like the A500 mini you can create custom mappings whenever you like for whatever game you like? Well Miner2049er is a confirmed included game, so hopefully they don't force users to do custom mappings to play it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Indeed - various pre-maps to support the 25 carousel games perhaps? sTeVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockymin Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 39 minutes ago, zzip said: Well Miner2049er is a confirmed included game, so hopefully they don't force users to do custom mappings to play it IIRC, in previously released Atari collections, I think the lifts in Miner were operated by just pushing up or down on the control and you would just go to the next lift up or down. Ex. stand in lift 1 at the bottom, push up to go to lift 2, then up to go to lift 3 or down to go back to lift 1. I haven't played it in my Atari 50 or Flashback cartridge or console yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Hester Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 15 hours ago, bent_pin said: The traditional power switch is missing from the side. Perhaps that round button on the back is the power button? It is indeed. It's identical to the one on the A500 Mini. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 39 minutes ago, Rockymin said: Ex. stand in lift 1 at the bottom, push up to go to lift 2, then up to go to lift 3 or down to go back to lift 1. I haven't played it in my Atari 50 or Flashback cartridge or console yet. That would mean a time penalty which could be deadly in M2049. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Okay lets clear things up. @Albert he isn't trolling. I didn't see it either until I understood they are hidden. Perhaps he has never taken apart a CX40? @MarquisDeSang the 4 buttons are the 4 controller directions! They are not visible. If you took apart a controller you will see UNDER the joystick handle there are indeed 4 buttons. North, South, East, West. I don't ever recall someone saying these are buttons until this mini 400 though. If we are going down this route, then the ORIGINAL Atari joystick has 5 buttons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, donjn said: Okay lets clear things up. @Albert he isn't trolling. I didn't see it either until I understood they are hidden. Perhaps he has never taken apart a CX40? @MarquisDeSang the 4 buttons are the 4 controller directions! They are not visible. If you took apart a controller you will see UNDER the joystick handle there are indeed 4 buttons. North, South, East, West. I don't ever recall someone saying these are buttons until this mini 400 though. If we are going down this route, then the ORIGINAL Atari joystick has 5 buttons! This is wrong. The new joystick has buttons on the outer RING. The ring is decorative on the original VCS controllers, but here they added 4 small discrete buttons ON the ring. The joystick motion doesn't count. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, donjn said: Okay lets clear things up. @Albert he isn't trolling. I didn't see it either until I understood they are hidden. Perhaps he has never taken apart a CX40? Well, he continues to assert that we are all wrong, even when it's been clearly explained repeatedly where the eight buttons are. 7 minutes ago, donjn said: @MarquisDeSang the 4 buttons are the 4 controller directions! They are not visible. If you took apart a controller you will see UNDER the joystick handle there are indeed 4 buttons. North, South, East, West. I don't ever recall someone saying these are buttons until this mini 400 though. If we are going down this route, then the ORIGINAL Atari joystick has 5 buttons! No, this is not correct, the buttons are under the ring. Has nothing to do with the joystick itself and the "buttons" that are used for the four cardinal directions of the joystick. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Albert said: Well, he continues to assert that we are all wrong, even when it's been clearly explained repeatedly where the eight buttons are. No, this is not correct, the buttons are under the ring. Has nothing to do with the joystick itself and the "buttons" that are used for the four cardinal directions of the joystick. ..Al I meant under the ring. So they are not visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: This is wrong. The new joystick has buttons on the outer RING. The ring is decorative on the original VCS controllers, but here they added 4 small discrete buttons ON the ring. The joystick motion doesn't count. But we still haven't seen a clear picture of those buttons yet. Someone keeps linking images, but I don't see the 4 buttons either. I just see the ring. I feel like I am taking crazy pills. Are you all saying there are four buttons UNDER the orange ring that are not visible, and a user is supposed to know they are there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 So the four button are under these spots? Makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 9 minutes ago, donjn said: So the four button are under these spots? Makes no sense. So that's 4, right. Then there's an additional 3, which gives us 7. The big orange/red original style button is 8: Edited January 24 by Bill Loguidice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Rockymin said: IIRC, in previously released Atari collections, I think the lifts in Miner were operated by just pushing up or down on the control and you would just go to the next lift up or down. Ex. stand in lift 1 at the bottom, push up to go to lift 2, then up to go to lift 3 or down to go back to lift 1. I haven't played it in my Atari 50 or Flashback cartridge or console yet. That would be great, I guess I'll try it out in Atari 50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, donjn said: So the four button are under these spots? Makes no sense. To move as if a 'keypress' and not moving the stick... two pressed at the same time be diagonal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: So that's 4, right. Then there's an additional 3, which gives us 7. The big orange/red original style button is 8: You might want to add an arrow for that last button. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Yes I need to see this to believe it. Those don't have anything to PRESS INWARD at all which means they are touch sensitive. Considering you will be moving the joystick around and the rest of your hand rests on the ring you could accidentally press one of the 4 ring buttons. Edited January 24 by donjn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, José Pereira said: To move as if a 'keypress' and not moving the stick... two pressed at the same time be diagonal? Let's make it super simple. Let's pretend the joystick doesn't exist. The yellow/orange ring, instead of being just decorative raised plastic, is actually pressable on the top, bottom, left, and right, each acting as a button press. In this image I removed the joystick for clarity and circled what you would press to activate each of the four (of seven new) functions, respectively. Edited January 24 by Bill Loguidice 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 GenXGrownup did a video of 10 games you should try out in your 400 Mini, and I got to be honest, I had never heard of some of them. I need to spend more time playing the 8-bit computers I guess. They also did a video after the announcement if anybody wants to watch that one. He is a huge 8-bit computer fan, which is nice seeing videos from people who are actually fans of the consoles. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarquisDeSang Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 So there are 4 hidden buttons that we cannot see and probably cannot feel with our fingers? Wow, I am eager to experience this new unintuitive, but beautiful looking design. Did anyone actually got their hand on these? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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