Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Rockymin said: Reading about it, it sounds like other controllers will be usable with the 400. I'm in. I just preordered from Amazon. It's probably a bit hit or miss like with the Commodore versions of these products. For instance, I have a USB adapter that replicates some of the functions of the included joystick with THEC64 because I really didn't care for that joystick. I'm more optimistic about this design, so I hope I don't have to use something else. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, donjn said: Yes. And? This was me admitting I am wrong. But no one ever does that right? I wonder why... This thread is moving fast, people are responding to posts a page or two back while new posts are showing up. Give people time to catch up Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdarRobusto Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 US preorders for the 400 Mini are opening in the next 15 minutes ... https://link.atari.com/THE400-Mini Our supplies for launch are limited ... although we will get more and I think Plain will eventually add sales via Amazon. But for the near-term, atari.com is goign to be your only option. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, zzip said: This thread is moving fast, people are responding to posts a page or two back while new posts are showing up. Give people time to catch up Actually he responded to my final point. The "Yes. And?" part really pissed me off, I need to take a break. I was using reflective listening to help people make their point and PROVE MYSELF WRONG, and I get a "Yes, And"? Sorry, I'm pissed. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, TrogdarRobusto said: US preorders for the 400 Mini are opening in the next 15 minutes ... https://link.atari.com/THE400-Mini Our supplies for launch are limited ... although we will get more and I think Plain will eventually add sales via Amazon. But for the near-term, atari.com is goign to be your only option. I preordered at Amazon US: https://www.amazon.com/THE400-Mini-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B0CS3VD9TJ 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockymin Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, TrogdarRobusto said: US preorders for the 400 Mini are opening in the next 15 minutes ... https://link.atari.com/THE400-Mini Our supplies for launch are limited ... although we will get more and I think Plain will eventually add sales via Amazon. But for the near-term, atari.com is goign to be your only option. I preordered from Amazon too. You're also able to preorder from retrogames.biz Will these preorders be invalid now? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter_Your_Initials Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/19/2024 at 4:04 AM, _The Doctor__ said: Input Lag and display lag always suck so much, mere mortals can't suck it enough to overcome the anguish resulting for it I've managed to match some of my high scores (albeit very modest ones) on a SNES Classic running Atari Emulation. Maybe partly due to having a near flawless controller. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdarRobusto Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 46 minutes ago, Rockymin said: I preordered from Amazon too. You're also able to preorder from retrogames.biz Will these preorders be invalid now? Ssorry if I created confusion. I thought retrogames was only taking EU orders .. all those preorders remain valid ... They got Amazon up sooner than we expected ... good news ... the more places to purchase the better 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, donjn said: Actually he responded to my final point. The "Yes. And?" part really pissed me off, I need to take a break. I was using reflective listening to help people make their point and PROVE MYSELF WRONG, and I get a "Yes, And"? Sorry, I'm pissed. My apologies if you took my "Yes. And?" the wrong way. You made the point you're saying you made poorly, so it was extremely unclear. I'll be more considerate in my responses to you in the future knowing your situation. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: My apologies if you took my "Yes. And?" the wrong way. You made the point you're saying you made poorly, so it was extremely unclear. I'll be more considerate in my responses to you in the future knowing your situation. I don't have a "situation". We are fine. Its all good. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockymin Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Strange that original Star Raiders isn't included. I suppose will be able to add it ourselves, though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance8 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Bill Loguidice said: It's probably a bit hit or miss like with the Commodore versions of these products. For instance, I have a USB adapter that replicates some of the functions of the included joystick with THEC64 because I really didn't care for that joystick. I'm more optimistic about this design, so I hope I don't have to use something else. Did you buy the C64 Mini or Maxi? The C64 Maxi comes with an upgraded joystick with micro-switches. It's a good enough stick. Although, my personal favorite is the Mayflash Universal Arcade Stick F500 V2 ... which works like a treat with it. So, I'm expecting the Mayflash arcade sticks shall likewise work with the Atari 400 Mini. I have fond memories of the CX-40 stick from my late 70's Atari VCS ... my first introduction to home gaming. Which preceded my first home computer, the C64. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Rockymin said: The product page says it supports external keyboards and other USB devices. So I wonder if Star Raiders would work if we added it ourselves and connected a keyboard. This will be fun to play with I think. That's how it works on the other Commodore-based products, so there's no reason why it wouldn't work here. Frankly, it would have been shocking for them to include games that weren't optimized for the single included joystick. Enthusiasts can add keyboards, etc., to improve their personal experience. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, sundance8 said: Did you buy the C64 Mini or Maxi? The C64 Maxi comes with an upgraded joystick with micro-switches. It's a good enough stick. Although, my personal favorite is the Mayflash Universal Arcade Stick F500 V2 ... which works like a treat with it. So, I'm expecting the Mayflash arcade sticks shall likewise work with the Atari 400 Mini. I have fond memories of the CX-40 stick from my late 70's Atari VCS ... my first introduction to home gaming. Which preceded my first home computer, the C64. I have all three, the Mini, Maxi, and Amiga one. Try as I might, I was never a particular fan of the beloved Competition Pro/Speedlink-style stick, and certainly didn't like how it was implemented on THEC64. Based on the product page, this will be cross-compatible with the Commodore stuff and also many other USB-based controllers, so I don't anticipate an issue whatever one's preference. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Rockymin said: The product page says it supports external keyboards and other USB devices. So I wonder if Star Raiders would work if we added it ourselves and connected a keyboard. This will be fun to play with I think. I'll let you know when I have my hands on a 400 Mini (soon!), that'll be one of the first games I play. ..Al 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance8 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) How will the Atari 400 Mini implement 5200 games, give the system had analog joysticks? Whilst the included CX-40 replica stick is digital. Please bear with me, if I'm missing something. The only prior Atari product I've owned (apart from Atarisoft titles on the C64), was my fondly remembered late 70's Atari VCS. Edited January 24 by sundance8 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, sundance8 said: How will the Atari 400 Mini implement 5200 games, give the system had analog joysticks? Whilst the included CX-40 replica stick is digital. Please bear with me, if I'm missing something. The only prior Atari product I've owned, was my fondly remembered late 70's Atari VCS. Even back in the day there were adapters that allowed digital Atari-style joysticks to be used with the system. Some games work just fine with digital rather than analog controls. What we don't know yet is whether there will be any analog support or any other support for alternative control methods (like mouse instead of 5200 trackball). Presumably, since this is emulation-based, that all should be possible. Whether it's enabled like that out of the box or will require a future firmware update or some type of hack remains to be seen of course. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarquisDeSang Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The first game that I put on that thing is : Realm of Impossibility 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockymin Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 37 minutes ago, Albert said: I'll let you know when I have my hands on a 400 Mini (soon!), that'll be one of the first games I play. ..Al I have one preordered as well. Will you be getting it in advance? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, MarquisDeSang said: The first game that I put on that thing is : Realm of Impossibility After 40 years, I still have that title screen music bouncing around in my head. Loved that game! ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Rockymin said: I have one preordered as well. Will you be getting it in advance? 😉 Yes, I'll likely have one in a week or so. ..Al 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, Albert said: After 40 years, I still have that title screen music bouncing around in my head. Loved that game! ..Al I can hear the music as I read the title. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, remowilliams said: I can hear the music as I read the title. In case anyone needs a refresher. 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 minutes ago, Albert said: In case anyone needs a refresher. I can tell in a fraction of a second that is the wrong (i.e. PAL) speed : D 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, remowilliams said: I can tell in a fraction of a second that is the wrong (i.e. PAL) speed : D Yeah, I immediately picked up on that as well, but that was one of the better renditions of the music that started right away when I was looking at videos. Feel free to link another that doesn't have the music playing slowly. ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/20/#findComment-5395864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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