Roydea6 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Mirage: i should have this ready by monday - for XE line and 800xl at least Are you going to be able to post up the instructions and such for these extra modifications to the machine that will now be necessary? Is there instructions yet for the XE line and 800xl. Mostly look for trace cutting area and end point for the 4 wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 not yet there Roy, i'm still working on it in the mean while, you could look here: http://www.atari.org.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=139742#p139742 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdemming Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Is the Ultimate1Mb flash also overriding the internal basic on XL and XE computer systems or only on the XE game system? I'm asking because I'm thinking to replace the Basic rom with a flash rom with multiple 8KB games besides basic. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 What do the header pins on the OS ROM and MMU connectors look like? Are the pins machined? Are turned sockets suitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 that depends if your hands stop shaking when you drunk... no, seriously i can't say anything in term of easyness - if its socketed then you're already half way there, because all that is left is soldering minimum of 3 (maximum of 4) connections, and you're done You're forgetting to mention cutting the 2 traces and adding the resistors to protect the XILINK chip. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Robert: it is Bill: not deliberatly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) And Jon? I'll also add height of connector block to my list of questions... Edited November 17, 2011 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Never mind - close inspection of photos reveals all I need to know for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Jon has 26 minutes to Deborah time, and still is not present on YM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 what kind of code is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Robert: it is Bill: not deliberatly I only mentioned it because while it is a minor consideration to those with more soldering experience, it could be more of a concern for a novice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 this is still preliminary, but covers most of the aspects - i've choosen 800xl for this as being most common one, other will get their sections too - don't worry - its just matter of time batteries depleted, camera had enough, and its almost 4AM here tomorrow (that is when i wake up, and i'm sure my babydaughter will help me with that) i'll finnish it (mechanical part is still to get covered), but i have also my day job to do good thing (or bad) is that i work from home office anyways - here it is - not connected to the main page yet http://spiflash.org/block/21.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 this is still preliminary, but covers most of the aspects - i've choosen 800xl for this as being most common one, other will get their sections too - don't worry - its just matter of time batteries depleted, camera had enough, and its almost 4AM here tomorrow (that is when i wake up, and i'm sure my babydaughter will help me with that) i'll finnish it (mechanical part is still to get covered), but i have also my day job to do good thing (or bad) is that i work from home office anyways - here it is - not connected to the main page yet http://spiflash.org/block/21.html I told you, go to bed ;') I will have the x1 130XE done with pics by sat for you, so you dont have to do them all sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Jon has 26 minutes to Deborah time, and still is not present on YM We do go out from time to time. This is the beauty of the forum: you leave information, and people pick it up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 this is still preliminary, but covers most of the aspects - i've choosen 800xl for this as being most common one, other will get their sections too - don't worry - its just matter of time batteries depleted, camera had enough, and its almost 4AM here tomorrow (that is when i wake up, and i'm sure my babydaughter will help me with that) i'll finnish it (mechanical part is still to get covered), but i have also my day job to do good thing (or bad) is that i work from home office anyways - here it is - not connected to the main page yet http://spiflash.org/block/21.html You are doing a wonderful job with that installation guide. +1 Keep doing the good work! Greetz M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Mine's just arrived. Might install into my VBXE 800XL tonight, see how time goes. Few questions... 1. We have built in Basic-C which takes precedence over what's on motherboard ? 2. Jumper block P4 - this stays unattached? What does it do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Jumper block P4 - this stays unattached? What does it do? The silkscreen markings are below the header. It looks to be for selecting which of the 4 OS's(S0/S1), which memory configuration to use(M0/M1), and perhaps also to set write protect(WP) on flashing. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Gary, Bill - these pins function changed since bios development originally they were as Bill suggested, to control OS and RAM expansion, now they function doesn't match silkscreen anymore - S0,S1,M0,M1 are GP outputs for controlling external extensions (ie SimpleStereo), and WP is address decoder output for VBXE - its used for D6xx/D7xx page select for VBXE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 OK. So does the Ultimate do the address decode itself for $D6xx/$D7xx ? ie, can I just desolder the existing line that provides the D6 VBXE select from the LS chip and move it to that location ? Also, doco doesn't seem to mention it - what's the hotkey on Reset for getting the config menu. I'll be using in conjunction with IDE Plus 2 so will need to ensure it's not trying to use the same one. And... the Basic + game - I guess it only applies to XEGS, or does it also override the XL's Basic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 yes, ultimate does that, and it can be used that way bios acces combination is help+reset, and it doesn't conflict with ide plus device - cold reset is obtained after help+reset and "c" (as for cold boot) it does override xl basics, but game is only available when in xegs mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Crap - I need to get that Help key fixed on the 1200XL then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4728a Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 My Package arrived today. Now to get some time to get them Installed, Going with the 800XL first, still a bit scared to work on the 130XE after hearing about how bad the boards were made. Thanks Sebastian!! Best Regards Robert Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I hope mine will be send soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) EDIT: Nevermind! Edited November 23, 2011 by Mirage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRamboTX Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Will this work on the XEGS? Is it available for order yet? Thanks and sorry if these questions are answered on one of the prior pages and I missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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