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Wich one of these two Prince of Persia you prefer?

José Pereira

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Sprites and colours&luminances (can be others) apart, what of these two Rocks type you think look better designed/better looking:  

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  1. 1. Sprites and colours&luminances apart(can be others), what of these two Rocks type you think look better designed/better looking:

    • PC original looking
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    • C64 remake looking
      33
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And now go telling a coder to do that xPos change of the PMs (that it isn't even possible for all the frames)

Do you have seen games from Activision? Where a single player is quite colourful by DLI changes?

It doesn't matter if you change a colour register or position register - expert...

Probably at the same Activision are on the same xPos and just changing colour and in a Bitmap Mode not on a Char-Mode with Bad-Lines.

And games with sprites over Gfxs, just x,y moving, here you have moving&fighting/hundreds of totally different frames and need to mask two times:

-> soft sprite of Enemy

-> PMs of the Prince

(double work on Masking, more cycles wasting in Char-Mode, Bad-Lines,...)

 

 

 

 

 

And I hope you in the future you will be more honest in the things you choose to show.

I am not here to fool others and just show concrete facts in 200 or 300 different frames that you simply choose one.

 

What was not honest?

Because you're posting one screen and a guy...

Still cannot see how will you get the Enemys...

From what you said you're intend to remove some things to have the Enemy?

Or was that I didn't understand?

Or you'll have an Enemy where there isn't Pillars? How? remove them. If this then it isn't PoPanymore. What would I called it? A new one you invented with less detail and playability?

 

 

 

And even if the Prince works like this then the Enemy will never work as a soft sprite only...

 

Now what? Does it work or not? BTW: I never told anything about the enemy being a softsprite.

Would be what? Flicker that two shapes?

 

 

 

 

We are talking of having the real PoP not a version where you, for example, to have all that nice colouring remove Enemy colouring and more, will remove Pillars, some gfxs,... to have an enemy.

 

Best wishes that a real version becomes real someday.

I'm also.

To have this and other games... That's why I work in the things you see.

 

 

 

 

I also advise you that on your next A8 projects you first get all sprites frames, all gfxs., game map, play the game and see it lots of times on YouTube in all the versions (if it's a conversion from another platform(s)) ;) .

:thumbsup:

What about unique, creative projects?. I thief cannot imagine to buy things...

I am not a good Artist like you.

But I usually ask the Authors if I can use their gfxs.

 

 

 

 

I never post screens nor ideas untill I see all the stuff and some questions to some guys that can advise me on the right way to go.

This is the difference between us...

:)

 

I hope there is some more difference. Calm down, I do not plan to provide concurrency 'game projects' this way - and I have a reliable coder.

 

Do you have a coder? Very good.

Soo we have two coders trying?

Soo many years waiting for PoP...

"There is no shortage that does not give in abundance"

(a Portuguese Proverb, i hope that the Google translation it's good and you understand it :) )

 

 

EDIT: Are you saying that some guys that have my ideas aren't capable?

At least you could only offend me :twisted: !

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I think I am also in a good way in all my 'thoughts/ways of...' converting games and I know I can get good IMHO on the gfxs and colours/luminance stuff.

And I am always learning... I can't code but am constantly learning how things worked that's why I know what I am saying when I post something.

 

I liked this, because you are very entertaining, José.

 

It seems you don't think that programmers are smart enough to estimate requirements in respect to machine capabilities and can balance them.

You never find a smart programmer, because smart programmers simply don't need you.

You aren't even able to contribute convincing graphics which doesn't come from someone else.

 

I don't say this in anger, I just like to tell you how programmers here may think about you 'genius' solutions.

 

You said that you 'deserve' a PoP participation, if someone decides to code it. Why?

Because you have thought about things, a programmer has to think about anyway when doing it?

Because you 'cleared' the way to a successful conversion?

What, if nearly nothing of your suggestions will be/can be used?

 

 

It seems that someone believes in my work and in my ideas.

Thankfully, the conversation is over between us.

But I'll miss it...

After you start this in a so friendly way :) ...

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José less writing, more action ;)

 

How's about the picture ?

 

 

Some pixels colours more... but today nothing, it's rainning here a lot ;) .

 

Come on. it's not much to do there ;)

Yes, it it... Do you want or not to use all A8 strenghts?

Now it's the badly part: lots of pixels/dithering to (re-)colour...

 

 

And I am a little bit 'on a down side' with the first raining here: constipation and throat pain.

But nothing really serious.

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José less writing, more action ;)

 

How's about the picture ?

 

 

Some pixels colours more... but today nothing, it's rainning here a lot ;) .

 

Come on. it's not much to do there ;)

Yes, it it... Do you want or not to use all A8 strenghts?

Now it's the badly part: lots of pixels/dithering to (re-)colour...

 

 

 

?

 

 

And I am a little bit 'on a down side' with the first raining here: constipation and throat pain.

But nothing really serious.

 

In Germany we say " gute Besserung" .

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How about building the Intro to have something at least this year?

 

Music is almost done, Textpictures are there....

For the title we'd need some patience ;)

And a working Sprite engine could do well on the cutscene.

 

 

Have to check Meteo, but I think that probably, wouldn't be raining all days untill the end of the Year ;)

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:roll:

Just couldn't resist:

 

How about building the Intro to have something at least this year?

 

Music is almost done, Textpictures are there....

For the title we'd need some patience ;)

And a working Sprite engine could do well on the cutscene.

 

Intro? What the Girl and the bad guy?

Later... It isn't important (and indeed it's very tricky to get on A8 ;) )...

 

Music? What Music? All? Good... At least we have something.

 

Text pictures? Have you got G2F joined the text ;-) ?

 

Sprites are going but first would go better in the gameplaying ;) but as you know it is impossible ;) .

 

For the title we'd need some patience ;)

No, you just need that it stops raining around here :mad:

:D

 

 

 

Have to go and see how's the Weather.

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:roll:

Just couldn't resist:

 

How about building the Intro to have something at least this year?

 

Music is almost done, Textpictures are there....

For the title we'd need some patience ;)

And a working Sprite engine could do well on the cutscene.

 

Intro? What the Girl and the bad guy?

Later... It isn't important (and indeed it's very tricky to get on A8 ;) )...

 

 

It IS important as it could clear out things with software object handling.

Music? What Music? All? Good... At least we have something.

 

 

If Miker is interested in some co work. things could get fast ;)

 

 

Text pictures? Have you got G2F joined the text ;-) ?

 

No need. The Borders is only needed once. The text has to be set by the coder, to have the blending effect.

 

Sprites are going but first would go better in the gameplaying ;) but as you know it is impossible ;) .

 

For the title we'd need some patience ;)

No, you just need that it stops raining around here :mad:

:D

 

 

 

Have to go and see how's the Weather.

 

lol

Your PC is ill too?

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lol

Your PC is ill too?

 

No, but it isn't Kit nor I am Michael Knight ;)

One thing it's beeing here answering you and other thing is seeing all that that pixels dithering...

Give me one more day and you'll see.

:thumbsup:

 

 

(P.s.- Why have to be the coder on the Text? Why he have to mix/bleding them?

It can be but it cannot be... If we have the two screens done, where's the problem?

It is sure that it have to Load Images from Disk/Cart or whatever and the Tiles/Chars/... aren't important. Each screen is totally independant than the other.)

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Ok, I have some more time now...

 

Not really piece of code. Just I've played a bit with "Running" animation (exctracted from gifs posted somewhere here).

 

Press "Break" and then "R" to restart animation. Note: it runs at ~15fps.

 

Enjoy! :)

 

P.S. Sorry for rather ridiculous file size. :P

Running.xex

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lol

Your PC is ill too?

 

Hey, you know it. Remember three or four weeks ago.

 

It was dead, almost... some parts of it's body, remember?

Something that a new Instalation and some ROMs ;) just get it ok. again.

 

Just saw Meteo site and I think there's better weather conditions for tomorrow :P .

Wish me luck!...

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Not really piece of code.

 

So far is the most advanced piece of code in this thread. ;)

 

tHANKS TO mIKER!...

How can I say more?

 

That exist here people that know how to work with GIFs and Windows...

 

Or that are people here working hard and this is just not a way to go...

 

And You, Eagle, sorry, but you probably wouldn't take this serious, nor bad, bad English mine if I call you how's you're Cybernoid into A8 going on?

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Well, to be honest... Although it look impressive it's just a bunch o bitmaps displayed in a loop (not a sprite!). But thanks anyway. :)

 

You must be the reincarnation of Steve Jobs. Impress most people by doing the least ;)

 

I would have said "wow", seing the animaton over a bitmap.

 

 

How's about finishing the tune? Would be nice.

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When I go to the gamehole and look in the game case and I see Atlus or Axsys it's my practice to pull the plastic. But I got a question: Which verison of prince of persia is your personal favorite? I prefer sands of time but reality when time flows you can't save it. I say this to remind myself to make payments, or find out which is better between featherbed and pavement. I don't know if life is game but I know I gotta keep playin it.

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When I go to the gamehole and look in the game case and I see Atlus or Axsys it's my practice to pull the plastic. But I got a question: Which verison of prince of persia is your personal favorite? I prefer sands of time but reality when time flows you can't save it. I say this to remind myself to make payments, or find out which is better between featherbed and pavement. I don't know if life is game but I know I gotta keep playin it.

 

I'd always prefer a 3D view game. SO, for real, the original Prince of Persia never has been my favorite game.

At the end, if all possibilities were gathered, the A8 Version would kick the Apple 2 version to the moon and back.

 

But, I'd still prefer a "3D" version on the A8. As we know, the A8 HAS the abilities for that....

Just some reminders:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ByUh18MjUU

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuZywAxfGkw

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