onmode-ky Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 but after comparing both game lists, you would be losing Battlezone and gaining Millipede on the FB5. Also worth noting, at the time of FB4's launch, the Bed Bath & Beyond edition included Millipede, and I'm pretty sure later general production runs of the FB4 included it as well. So, for all intents and purposes, the difference between FB5 and FB4 is the loss of Battlezone and the addition of the M Network and homebrew titles. I guess there's a shadow of a chance that Space Invaders got replaced in the FB5 with the actual 2600 Space Invaders, but I wouldn't bet on it. onmode-ky 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3043822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyd97 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Here are the official game lists for all of the 2014 AtGames hardware: http://www.armchairarcade.com/neo/taxonomy/term/3892 Any idea why they would leave off Battlezone??? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3044143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Rebellion bought Battlezone at auction. AtGames either failed or didn't try to re-license it from the current rights holder. I wonder if the XBLA and Game Room downloads on Xbox Live Arcade are now delisted. Edited August 1, 2014 by Atariboy 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3044152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekkiELO Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) I am thinking of just going with the Flashback 4 Deluxe instead of the 5 so I get the paddles with it. I know you can buy them separate for $20, but after comparing both game lists, you would be losing Battlezone and gaining Millipede on the FB5. To me that's not an even trade since you already get Centipede. Also, I will be purchasing an Intellivision Flashback, so the added M Network games to the Atari FB mean nothing to me. They are simple throwaways... Indeed, same here, I agree 100%, Intellivision's Flashback makes M Network games pointless, so sadly, I'm also passing on the Atari Flashback 5, looks like AtGames had some sort of issue on about 6-8 game licenses from Williams/Midway/Stern, because their tentative game list was originally 100 at one time and its box showed Defender II along with Gauntlet! Edited August 1, 2014 by TrekkiELO Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3044237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Indeed, same here, I agree 100%, Intellivision's Flashback makes M Network games pointless, so sadly, I'm also passing on the Atari Flashback 5, looks like AtGames had some sort of issue on about 6-8 game licenses from Williams/Midway/Stern, because their tentative game list was originally 100 at one time and its box showed Defender II along with Gauntlet! This is true. When I was discussing that with them early on, I never did get a definitive answer on what version of Gauntlet was going to be on there. There are ongoing discussions with Midway and it's likely their stuff will appear in future products, but I think all Midway games - even the Mortal Kombat stuff on the Sega Genesis - got pulled for the 2014 stuff for whatever reason. I'm glad I'm not privy to licensing discussions, as I think I'd go crazy... 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3044420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Indeed, same here, I agree 100%, Intellivision's Flashback makes M Network games pointless, so sadly, I'm also passing on the Atari Flashback 5, looks like AtGames had some sort of issue on about 6-8 game licenses from Williams/Midway/Stern, because their tentative game list was originally 100 at one time and its box showed Defender II along with Gauntlet! Well, if you don't have a previous Flashback, the M Network games are a great addition. It's more games than ever before. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3044425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Well, if you don't have a previous Flashback, the M Network games are a great addition. It's more games than ever before. Plus a lot of people felt that the M-Network versions of the games were BETTER on the Atari then their Intelivision versions. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3044850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Will the Coleco & Intellivision models be released in the UK at any point in the future? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3045382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Will the Coleco & Intellivision models be released in the UK at any point in the future? Probably not. I think AtGames only has authorization for the US this time around. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3045403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Probably not. I think AtGames only has authorization for the US this time around. That is a real shame as I would have bought both. Oh well Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3045690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I imagine either a company will be importing these into the UK so you can buy from them or a company will ship it to you from the US. Or perhaps a friend will send you one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3045716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Probably not. I think AtGames only has authorization for the US this time around. Is that true of Canada too? I never could find any retail stores carrying flashbacks around here. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3045731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Is that true of Canada too? I never could find any retail stores carrying flashbacks around here. I have a query in double-checking on availability or lack thereof outside the US. Hopefully something has changed. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3045746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 For those asking about other territories, at this point in time, I can confirm that these units will only see release at US retailers. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3045865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It looks like I won't be allowed to reveal further details on much of anything else until September, but I did want to clarify that in addition to the ColecoVision and Intellivision Flashbacks getting special Dollar General and Sam's Club editions, it looks like both the Atari Flashback 5 and Sega Classic Console will be getting the same treatment. I can't reveal the details of what those are yet, but just be aware that if you're interested in that type of thing, those will also have variations. Since I'll be able to talk about it in September, that should still provide plenty of time to make a final purchase decision. The Sega Genesis handheld unit is the only one that will be solely available in a standard edition. Even though AtGames prefers at this point to wait on releasing further info, I'll of course continue to do my best to try and clarify/correct any incorrect information or rumors. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3046929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyd97 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Maybe we will see Battlezone after all. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3047488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I think it will be more of the same for extras. There will be paddles included for the deluxe with the same games. Just about ready to pull the trigger and get FB4 Deluxe. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3049838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumerNivek Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks for all the updates, Bill. You do good work! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3052423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raticon Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 A terrible shame they won't see release outside the US. I got the Flashback 4 here in Sweden and it was that very console that got me hooked on Atari in the first place and made me get a real console and a bunch of games, i even went out of my way (and my wallet!) to get a pair of paddles (rare over here) and a extra original joystick just to have a complete set of sticks and paddles to play all the games on both systems.To be honest, i am most disappointed in missing the Intellivision and Colecovision-flashbacks as i have never ever played any of them, but i became interested in them after becoming a member here.Sure i can try to get hold of a Intellivision unit but they are very very rare here, and i've never seen a Colecovision for sale at all, never mind finding games for themIf the Flashbacks got an UK or Germany release i could easily get hold of the system and, in the UK case, an adapter for the wall socket since power is the same, the German one would just be plug and play.To get one from the US would mean outrageous shipping costs and the added nuisance of getting hold of a converter that alters both the plugs and the voltage to Swedish standards. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3058831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 That's a nice fantasy you have there. Reminds me of nontasters that cover everything in ketchup or hot sauce who act like supertasters don't exist and believe that everybody should eat the way that they do. A lot of people seem to have nontaster brains and it looks like you might be one of them. There are people who can instantly see or hear differences without needing to spend time looking for them. Different people have different natural abilities. If you have a nontaster brain, you probably can't do anything to change it and you can't magically make everyone else have a nontaster brain, so drop it already. Or the people who cannot tell the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3059130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
didimo63 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Someplace in the Midwest today, a European 51 y.o. dude stopped at some store, and bought these. [Yeah, I know. They were not supposed to be sold until October 1st. Maybe my charming accent helped ].I love the units and the controllers. They feel "real", look about the same size as the original (will check later on), and the Colecovision controller feel better, more responsive, less clunky! Will try them out later on, after dinner. 7 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3059374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DamonicFury Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Wow, nice score! Do tell us all about them! In particular, is Space Invaders on the FB5 the 2600 version or the arcade port that was on the FB4? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3060352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
didimo63 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Wow, nice score! Do tell us all about them! In particular, is Space Invaders on the FB5 the 2600 version or the arcade port that was on the FB4? I posted a quick review of both the Intellivision and the Colecovision units on the forum posts devoted to them. To summarize my thoughts, these are excellent products. GREAT joypads / joysticks, just like the original, yet improved in terms of mechanics / responsiveness. Accurate emulation, running the original roms (I initially wrote 100% accurate emulation, but I genuinely would not know for sure. Let's put it this way: I have the original machines and games, and I don't see differences). I have not unpacked my Atari 5 yet. I will let you know asap [first day of classes today, and I'm a college prof, sigh ]. Edited August 25, 2014 by didimo63 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3060360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyd97 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The picture on the back shows the 2600 version of space invaders. That's a good sign. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3061366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The picture on the back shows the 2600 version of space invaders. That's a good sign. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, honestly. I was pushing hard for consistency in the box art that was used, which is why they're all like that. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten my review unit yet, so I don't know what version is on there either. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/221409-atari-flashback-5-new-features-dream-list/page/7/#findComment-3061371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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