godslabrat Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I don't know about that. This seemed like an easy $3,000,000. And they didn't have do to anything. No board, no specs, no gameplay, no games (games playing not on their platform don't count). If they can't show anything other than a controller on their next update I would back out if I had pledged. Assuming Atari will give it back of course. Literally everything Atari said through this process said "risk averse". They didn't want to invest any of their own time, money, or resources into the Taco. Lifting so much as a finger without a guaranteed check in the bank went against everything the project stood for. I tend to agree that a real effort would have yeilded even more money (as evidenced by the long-term return seen on the Flashbacks) but that requires things like "patience" and "confidence in a good product". 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Well, at least it exists and mostly works at this point. I can give them credit for that. On the other hand, there is that other Atari based project that needs a taco post from me.... Thank you for reminding me. I saw this in the parking lot the other day on my lunchbreak and thought about you guys. Owner of this vehicle seems exactly like the type of customer base these yahoos are trying to corner. Unless said owner also happens to be the owner of the Taco joint next door, that is. I need to try out that place sometime... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Spriggy Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 That chimp seems more active than "Atari" in reality (note that I cannot say "real Atari") Holger Kipp 3 hours ago I guess Atari first needs to finalize the hardware specs, finish the 2nd prototype and complete the design validation testing. This is planned for Q3/2018, so till end of September this year. They got our requests, questions for Rob, wishlist of games, but it is not only the hardware, but also software, OS, infrastructure etc. that is needed. And presumably no game company wants to be associated with products not even there. Till then, Atari presumably cant really tell any news 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Spriggy Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 That chimp seems more active than "Atari" in reality (note that I cannot say "real Atari") Touche! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Put chimps and snails in the same office and the chimps will have snail remains between their teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Meanwhile, back in the real world, here are some real Atari™ branded game playing thingamabobs that you can go into a store, right now, and buy! And, I might add, for much, much less than Nutari™ is asking for their vague hopes, dreams and promises sometime near the end of next year. Well, that last one was there the last time I was at this particular establishment, which probably means they forgot to restock it (pretty typical for this place). Seems that obviously someone was willing to part with their cash for it. As for the Atacobox™, seems like P.T. Barnum was right: a sucker is born every minute. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Meanwhile, back in the real world, here are some real Atari™ branded game playing thingamabobs that you can go into a store, right now, and buy! And, I might add, for much, much less than Nutari™ is asking for their vague hopes, dreams and promises sometime near the end of next year. flashback-8.jpg flashback-8-gold.jpg flashback-portable.jpg Well, that last one was there the last time I was at this particular establishment, which probably means they forgot to restock it (pretty typical for this place). Seems that obviously someone was willing to part with their cash for it. As for the Atacobox™, seems like P.T. Barnum was right: a sucker is born every minute. Not sure if that's the ATGames model or not, but if it is I refuse to support them in any way. They butcher the Sega Genesis Flashback consoles. Edited August 27, 2018 by Lodmot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I really like cheese.On tacos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Back in sad groupie land, folks are attempting to rationalize their decisions and wrestle with regret already. Somebody should really break it to them that all their questions and concerns are addressed with one simple statement: "Atari got your money already.", or put more simply, "No refunds." Chris Barbagallo1 hour ago Still don’t understand why there isn’t a proper games list, yet. Tommy O'Neil3 hours ago @Holger KippWell, they actually could tell us their current tasks, or a progress vlog, or a tour of their offices to kinda warm us up to them. But they don’t want to do that for some reason, After all, they were supposed to be about involving the community. Not to mention, this console was also supposedly “years in the making”, so wouldn’t all of this have been ready by now? Holger Kipp8 hours ago I guess Atari first needs to finalize the hardware specs, finish the 2nd prototype and complete the design validation testing. This is planned for Q3/2018, so till end of September this year. They got our requests, questions for Rob, wishlist of games, but it is not only the hardware, but also software, OS, infrastructure etc. that is needed. And presumably no game company wants to be associated with products not even there. Till then, Atari presumably can’t really tell any news Tommy O'Neil1 day ago @Alec Roberts That’s an amazingly bad tactic to try and get people enthusiastic about your platform. I’m no marketing guy, so maybe I’m wrong. It just seems highly illogical to me though. I would think that Atari should’ve announced some more actual games for their console if they wanted to develop any kind of interest from….. well…. gamers….. lol…. TJ A.2 days ago And it would make huge sense if Atari would give us constant updates.They always insisted that the reason for crowdfunding is because they want to involve the Fans into the process. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Saw this on facebook today... I think we have the Atacobox portable! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifemadesimple Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I really like cheese. On tacos. I'll be honest, after being away for five months I am a little surprised the taco thing has stuck around. Not, like, shocked. But a teensy bit surprised. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I'll be honest, after being away for five months I am a little surprised the taco thing has stuck around. Not, like, shocked. But a teensy bit surprised. Fair point. But are you surprised that the Ataribox has, in that same time frame, shown absolutely zero progress towards becoming a real thing? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Back in sad groupie land, folks are attempting to rationalize their decisions and wrestle with regret already. Somebody should really break it to them that all their questions and concerns are addressed with one simple statement: "Atari got your money already.", or put more simply, "No refunds." Chris Barbagallo1 hour ago Still don’t understand why there isn’t a proper games list, yet. Tommy O'Neil3 hours ago @Holger Kipp Well, they actually could tell us their current tasks, or a progress vlog, or a tour of their offices to kinda warm us up to them. But they don’t want to do that for some reason, After all, they were supposed to be about involving the community. Not to mention, this console was also supposedly “years in the making”, so wouldn’t all of this have been ready by now? Holger Kipp8 hours ago I guess Atari first needs to finalize the hardware specs, finish the 2nd prototype and complete the design validation testing. This is planned for Q3/2018, so till end of September this year. They got our requests, questions for Rob, wishlist of games, but it is not only the hardware, but also software, OS, infrastructure etc. that is needed. And presumably no game company wants to be associated with products not even there. Till then, Atari presumably can’t really tell any news Tommy O'Neil1 day ago @Alec Roberts That’s an amazingly bad tactic to try and get people enthusiastic about your platform. I’m no marketing guy, so maybe I’m wrong. It just seems highly illogical to me though. I would think that Atari should’ve announced some more actual games for their console if they wanted to develop any kind of interest from….. well…. gamers….. lol…. TJ A.2 days ago And it would make huge sense if Atari would give us constant updates. They always insisted that the reason for crowdfunding is because they want to involve the Fans into the process. Yeah... It's too bad Atari don't actually really like money all that much. They could've made a lot more if they just gave people what they've been asking for-- more frequent updates, announcements on actual exclusive game content, etc. Apparently that's not what they wanted to do. So instead of like potentially making 10+ million dollars and pleasing their audience, they only snatched 3 million (actually less if you take out what they owe Uncle Sam) and now nobody's happy. Oh well. :3 The corporate mindset is so illogical, don't you think? Edited August 27, 2018 by Lodmot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Saw this on facebook today... I think we have the Atacobox portable! FB_IMG_1535392138660.jpg Ha. That actually sounds like an interesting product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Ha. That actually sounds like an interesting product. Who wants to play Flogger and Pratfall? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifemadesimple Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Fair point. But are you surprised that the Ataribox has, in that same time frame, shown absolutely zero progress towards becoming a real thing? Not in the slightest. That's part of the reason why I wasn't around . Still looks pretty, still hasn't shown an ounce of real and tangible design that will let it carve out a niche imho. It reminds me of when I was a kid and I would 'design' my own video game consoles. I always nailed the eight year old aesthetics, but when it came to anything more complicated that that they were always just empty cardboard boxes. Then again, I wasn't kickstarting these things. But evidently I'm not the market, since the campaign went fine funding-wise. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My concern would be that many backers were backing to own a cool looking Netflix box, while many others were effectively gambling - if it succeeds in any niche, they make money. High risk, high (potential) reward tech speculatin'. If I'm right and this is indeed the case, the attach rate for actual games will probably be very weak. And you can't support a video game console that noone will buy games for. Just ask the PSP. Who knows. If it actually comes out on time and reviews are great and everyone is happy and there's egg on all our faces, I'll be happy for it. I really will. But the warning bells were sounded pre-indiegogo launch, folks were warned to be skeptical, now we just wait and see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Who wants to play Flogger and Pratfall? I want to play PUNG. It sounds dirty. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 500 pages?! Dear Lord ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I want to play PUNG. It sounds dirty. I hear they have great versions of: Mood Petrol Crazy Klinger Hobotron Wallaby Shovel-Shoveled AC - The Additional Celestial Luggage Dude Searchers of the Miss-placed Box Mule Godzilla Herbert Stream Assault Ray's Comeuppance and Kablooey! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) I hear they have great versions of: ... AC - The Additional Celestial ... Ray's Comeuppance I lol'ed I'm also partial to Wombat Mild Amusement with Integers Gambling House Telling Your Machine To Do Limited Things In Three Lines of Code Edited August 27, 2018 by Inky 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Who wants to play Pratfall? If it involves Laurel & Hardy or The Three Stooges sign me up. Shoot; I'll even accept The 3 Stooges: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Not sure if any of you have ever seen this (it's from 2015) but since there is not exactly a lot of news with Nutari I figured i'd share this now https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/23/us/taco-robbery-ad/index.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Back in sad groupie land, folks are attempting to rationalize their decisions and wrestle with regret already. Somebody should really break it to them that all their questions and concerns are addressed with one simple statement: "Atari got your money already.", or put more simply, "No refunds." Chris Barbagallo1 hour ago Still don’t understand why there isn’t a proper games list, yet. Tommy O'Neil3 hours ago @Holger Kipp Well, they actually could tell us their current tasks, or a progress vlog, or a tour of their offices to kinda warm us up to them. But they don’t want to do that for some reason, After all, they were supposed to be about involving the community. Not to mention, this console was also supposedly “years in the making”, so wouldn’t all of this have been ready by now? Holger Kipp8 hours ago I guess Atari first needs to finalize the hardware specs, finish the 2nd prototype and complete the design validation testing. This is planned for Q3/2018, so till end of September this year. They got our requests, questions for Rob, wishlist of games, but it is not only the hardware, but also software, OS, infrastructure etc. that is needed. And presumably no game company wants to be associated with products not even there. Till then, Atari presumably can’t really tell any news Tommy O'Neil1 day ago @Alec Roberts That’s an amazingly bad tactic to try and get people enthusiastic about your platform. I’m no marketing guy, so maybe I’m wrong. It just seems highly illogical to me though. I would think that Atari should’ve announced some more actual games for their console if they wanted to develop any kind of interest from….. well…. gamers….. lol…. TJ A.2 days ago And it would make huge sense if Atari would give us constant updates. They always insisted that the reason for crowdfunding is because they want to involve the Fans into the process. they're gettin' restless on FB too: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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