TIX Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 8/27/2019 at 9:21 PM, atari2600land said: I don't. How would I program that in anyway? No big deal.. So what do you have in mind for the ending ? want me to prepare something ? or you are set ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 Am back working on this again. I got in a new level and fixed the sonar ping bug on the title screen. I just figured out I'm going to need a game over screen as well. So I put in that thing that allows you to replace wasted zeroes with actual code. But with the just now realizing me needing to add a game over screen (which can't read "game over" since there are no Vs in the font), I should just have enough room to make what I was going for when I started. gosub2019september7.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 Started work on the game over sequence. It needs something. Like graphics. But it has a little song it plays though before going back to the title screen. I thought for sure there was a thing that detected whether the TIA was playing notes, but there isn't, so I set a timer that counts to the end of the song. gosub2019september8.zip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Something that should be added on the 7800basic guide: Banners must have a width and height in a pixel number divisible by 8. Otherwise it won't work well. I added a little picture on the game over screen, and I had tons of problems with it because of that. gosub20190909.zip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I rack my brain to come up with a 'game over' image, Give me the dimensions so i can limit my imagination.. I guess we have 3 colors + background available ? Wish we could get away with something like this.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SmittyB Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Maybe possible to draw it in 160B mode and change the palette for that screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 This end screen looks great....but most important is the game.... 7800 Gosub is top......Gosub is one of my favourite 2600 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 needs work but I love it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 8 hours ago, TIX said: needs work but I love it looks good....how about an animation...going down ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Looks like an ending screen, the sub has now resurfaced, the guy is on top of it saluting you. But that's just me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, atari2600land said: Looks like an ending screen, the sub has now resurfaced, the guy is on top of it saluting you. But that's just me. Agreed, so what can we do to fit it in ? reduce colors ? size ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 I have no idea. I think it just needs to be only 3 colors, but I'm not sure. That's what the placeholder game over screen has, just 3 colors. I'd like a more experienced Atari 7800 programmer to chime in because I am wondering how the pretty colorful pictures in commercial 7800 games were made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SmittyB Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, atari2600land said: I think it just needs to be only 3 colors, but I'm not sure. The 7800 chooses a graphics mode by looking at a register in memory and the object's header, the combination of which controls how the graphics data is interpreted and drawn. You don't really need to know how or why unless you want to use some of the other modes, but the thing to take away from it is that you can freely mix 160A and 160B mode graphics on the same screen. 160B let's you use all the colours from palettes 0 to 3 or 4 to 7 for 12 colours (plus transparency) in one image. In 7800BASIC you just need to specify that it's intended to be drawn in 160B mode when you import the graphics, choose either palette 0 or 4 when you plot it, and the drawing routines will set it up properly for you. Another thing to remember is that you can freely change the palette at any time so you're not limited to just the colours you use in game, you could choose specific colours for the image and then set them back when the game restarts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I'm using a mix of 160A and 160B for Arkanoid. I've carefully laid out every palette to be used not only individually but also have palettes 0-3 for 160B sprites. Managed to also get the 10 brick colors with a black in 160A. Palettes 4-7 are changed for the Doh level (again a mix of 160A and 160B) for the background and doh head surrounds so I can fade and blacken things as required. Been a huge juggling act and a constant review. Even after thinking it was not possible defender_2600 still managed to find a way so we could get extra colors for the backgrounds. The effort has paid off as the screens are vivid and full of color. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 OK, so can TIX make the above picture be 12 or less colors then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, atari2600land said: OK, so can TIX make the above picture be 12 or less colors then? Yes definitely. I would give him your color palette (either 0-3 or 4-7) so he doesn't use the wrong colors and fits in with what you've got ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 I thought you could redefine the palettes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, atari2600land said: I thought you could redefine the palettes. Well yes you can - I guess it depends on where. If the title or game or end screen has their own palettes already then you can choose which one. It can also depend on how much of the palettes you have or haven't allocated. I've found you just need to be careful on how you plan - at least in my case as I'm using every color available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 So where did TIX go? Does he not want to work on this any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'm here, but you have to be more specific about the colors I can use, I have no clue what palette 0-3 or 4-7 or the other terms you are using are.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 I take care of palette 0-3 or 4-7. What you have to do is you can use any color, just make sure you don't use more than 11 different ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, atari2600land said: I take care of palette 0-3 or 4-7. What you have to do is you can use any color, just make sure you don't use more than 11 different ones. I think that's 11.. still working on this ! Edited September 22, 2019 by TIX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) ok I have to stop and call it done ! Can you tell I really enjoy this game ?? Edited September 22, 2019 by TIX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) ..cleaned it up a little png Edited September 22, 2019 by TIX 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 I have some rather depressing news. Due to the amount of space reserved for graphics, all I have room for is a 36x36 pixel picture. So I played with the code and got a picture of a huge treasure chest in. Perhaps TIX can make it better than what I have now? Also, I only have room for 20 levels, not the 30 I was hoping for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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