+CyranoJ Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Bounty Bob for the 800 and the 5200... so subtract one game from the total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cubanismo Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) Because we have endless threads on mini Jaguars, we all know why, but anyone who last heard about Jaguar in a print magazine or a YouTube video is gonna want to know where AvP is. I'll probably buy this on VCS for the novelty of it, but it seems like the same old bag of fail new Atari always puts out in their compilations these days with some Jaguar sauce on top this time. Edit: On second thought, I guess they have done a good job of capturing the games that did end up defining the Jaguar. Edited September 12, 2022 by cubanismo Second thoughts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I hope, at least on VCS, the emulator will be open. If so, a reason to buy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucardX Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 1:43 AM, laymanpigeon said: On other hand Atari Karts looks like it should have been a launch title for Jaguar all the way back in 1993 yet released in 1995. Atari Karts looked amazing, played okay and lacked the charm and balance that Mario Kart had. It is a good game still but I still think that if Mario Kart and Atari Karts were in the same room, over a long period of time Mario Kart would get more play. On 8/27/2022 at 8:59 AM, Gunther said: Fight For Life, Like Virtua Fighter, isn't a button-masher. If you put the hours in, it's a highly technical and rewarding game. It was unfairly panned by the critics, and ATARI themselves didn't give the developer the respect he deserved. I still like FFL and if I'm looking at it with "90's eyes" I think as a display of what the Jaguar was capable of it was impressive. Like you state, it was unfairly panned and Atari should have handled it differently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidGameR186496 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 At least the silver lining about this collection is the PC version, which is where people will get a kick out of the Jaguar emulator by adding new games, much like the mini systems. Although i don't rule out the possibility of said people extracting that emulator and make a PC version out of it. Hell, they could use it, the Phoenix, Virtual Jaguar and Project Tempest (a.k.a. the only one that allowed support for Jag CD games) as basis to make a new one with features from each emulator at this point. But what the heck do i know, i'm just talking out of my butt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Ruiner! Awesome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlynxalot Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) Honestly 9 games seems like a lot. And that's better representation than the atari 5200. The whole thing seems pretty skewed to 2600 games but I'm still glad to see this coming out. The lynx, 5200 and 7800 selections seem a bit weird but I imagine they are carefully selected to limit the games that atari would need to negotiate new licensing arrangements for (eg even if the 7800 port of pole position or xevious was made by atari, atari would still need to do a new licensing arrangement with namco to re release those games). When it comes down to it, Ataris original IP from the tramiel era seem a little weak. Scrapyard dog, fight for life, Trevor mcfur, fatal run, they might have been somewhat notably on their respective systems for various reasons, such as being the first or the last game released, but none of these games made a splash in the game scene of their time and none of them stacked up well against similar games by competitors. I think the 50th package will still be neat to play though. The idea of going chronologically through the timeline and playing games in order of their development and release while listening to interviews with the developers or other people involved seems like a fun concept regardless of the objective quality of the games themselves. Edited September 12, 2022 by sirlynxalot 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, sirlynxalot said: Honestly 9 games seems like a lot. And that's better representation than the atari 5200. The whole thing seems pretty skewed to 2600 games but I'm still glad to see this coming out. Given the sales numbers+cultural impact of the 2600, that's no surprise really. It is a bit of a surprise to finally see the Lynx and Jag get some love as I don't think this has ever happened under Atari SA (memory might be fuzzy there). The 5200 & 7800 have had some hat tips here and there at least. Quote The lynx, 5200 and 7800 selections seem a bit weird but I imagine they are carefully selected to limit the games that atari would need to negotiate new licensing arrangements for (eg even if the 7800 port of pole position or xevious was made by atari, atari would still need to do a new licensing arrangement with namco to re release those games). When it comes down to it, Ataris original IP from the tramiel era seem a little weak. Scrapyard dog, fight for life, Trevor mcfur, fatal run, they might have been somewhat notably on their respective systems for various reasons, such as being the first or the last game released, Yeah, about 90% of the IP released from mid-84 to '96 by Atari would have to be licensed since most of it was contracted to 3rd parties. There's an IP catalog list on Atari.com where you can see that Atari owns little of the Lynx/Jag libraries. I've wondered why some stuff like Hover Strike aren't on there though, as I thought that one was all done in-house. Or perhaps HS was included with BattleZone to Rebellion? Quote but none of these games made a splash in the game scene of their time and none of them stacked up well against similar games by competitors. I do wonder how any normal gamer who just knows the 2600 will react to some of these games like Club Drive (or even try them). Sadly, it very well might reinforce the negative perceptions surrounding the Jag, although I get that licensing stuff like AvP, Doom, Wolf 3D would have cost too much. Still, some of this IP is so old and forgotten, it couldn't cost that much to license, would it? Some better showcase stuff like Super Burnout or even license BattleMorph from Carl? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, KidGameR186496 said: Here's the full list for the compilation. Only 9 Jaguar games made it in... https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-74842785/pre-orders/ps4-atari-50-the-anniversary-collection-pre-order/ 1) Atari Karts 2) Club Drive 3) Cybermorph 4) Evolution Dino Dudes 5) Fight For Life 6) Missile Command 3D 7) Ruiner Pinball 8 ) Tempest 2000 9) Trevor McFur In The Crescent Galaxy Ruiner is an odd choice. Well I guess not really. I keep thinking HVS owns that. If they are smoothly emulating those games that's probably a pretty good sign they got the emulator pretty well dialed in more than any other Jaguar emulator has ever been. Wonder if the rest will be available via pay for play. Or maybe a modified licensed play thru the internet Battlesphere. I think that is what Atari should try to do for the VCS. Get games like an updated version of Battlesphere done by Scatologic for that system. An updated version of Impulse X etc. Get the license and do an updated version of C64/Lynx ALIEN. Edited September 12, 2022 by JagChris God%&$# autocorrect 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostdragon Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 hours ago, JagChris said: I think that is what Atari should try to do for the VCS. Get games like an updated version of Battlesphere done by Scatologic for that system. An updated version of Impulse X etc. Get the license and do an updated version of C64/Lynx ALIEN. The only issue with trying to do an updated version of the cult classic C64 Aluen game is, it's kind of already been done via the DLC for Alien Isolation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostdragon Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Well, I preordered my copy last night on PS4. I need Tempest 2000 back in my life, as 4000 has just left me cold. I got on OK with Cybermorph at the time, curiosity has me wanting to try out Missile Command 3D and retry Trevor McFur In The Crescent Galaxy. I love Dino Dudes music. Edited October 6, 2022 by Lostdragon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidGameR186496 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Lostdragon said: Well, I preordered my copy last night on PS4. I need Tempest 2000 back in my life, as 4000 has just left me cold. I got on OK with Cybermorph at the time, curiosity has me wanting to try out Missile Command 3D and retry Trevor McFur In The Crescent Galaxy. I love Dino Dudes music. If there's one thing about The Humans is that no matter the version, it always featured good music, but the Jaguar renditions are the ones i like the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagosaurus Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Okay, nice... 3 new additions since trailer in Club Drive, Dino Dudes, & Ruiner. I really liked Dino Dudes. I refused to use a FAQ & got stuck decently far in 😆. Also dig the music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHATEIT Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Thanks for posting the 3 new additions. I havent kept up with this and this is good news it is more than just 6 games for the Jaguar. I'm tempted ot snag this on my Atari VCS or my Nintendo Switch when it is released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Digital Eclipse and probably Mike Mika will be at the PRGE this weekend. For those of you not going what would you like those of us who are going to ask them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidGameR186496 Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 9 hours ago, JagChris said: Digital Eclipse and probably Mike Mika will be at the PRGE this weekend. For those of you not going what would you like those of us who are going to ask them? Do you guys have plans to make the Jaguar emulator that was written for the collection publically available online? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, KidGameR186496 said: Do you guys have plans to make the Jaguar emulator that was written for the collection publically available online? More important, will it allow to play other games. For example homebrew?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlynxalot Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 When will the Jaguar mini be coming out? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 hours ago, sirlynxalot said: When will the Jaguar mini be coming out? As soon as Tata sells Jaguar to BMW. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyindrew Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 While the list of games is impressive for Atari 50, one very minor complaint about an omission. As my personal "golden age" of Atari was circa 1985/86 with 130XE, I wish they would have included one game from this era, namely Star Raiders 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, KidGameR186496 said: Do you guys have plans to make the Jaguar emulator that was written for the collection publically available online? I would doubt this. If they plan on making more games available to buy through this package releasing it to the public would ruin that. Edited October 12, 2022 by JagChris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Would the Jaguar have succeeded if it had launched with the CD-ROM drive and/or if the PlayStation never existed? 🙂 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 18 hours ago, JagChris said: For those of you not going what would you like those of us who are going to ask them? Can your emulator emulate the MASSIVE untapped power hidden in the Jaguar that nobody has been (yet) able to exploit? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARusk Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Can it really do the math? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 7:31 AM, KidGameR186496 said: On 10/11/2022 at 9:51 PM, JagChris said: Digital Eclipse and probably Mike Mika will be at the PRGE this weekend. For those of you not going what would you like those of us who are going to ask them? Is the emulator really 64-bits, or is it two 32-bit emulators running in parallel? 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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