DhaemonX Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: Ha yeah, people like really react when I just was pulling the cart out with the power on. Thing is with the P1 paddle I did check the stability of both paddles many times throughout PGRE and it was always fine, but then I think some kids where a bit rough with them this morning. Something to note and investigate anyway. Hey Ben, I heard the disappointing news about the game pad used by games like Star Raiders isn't working on the 2600+. Do you think this can be easily resolved by a future update? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microjak Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Hi all and thanks for all the great info on this site! Looking forward to getting my 2600+ and booting up some old dusty carts. A bit off topic but what is that little wood grain stand that the carts are stacked in on the paddle video? looks great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, Microjak said: A bit off topic but what is that little wood grain stand that the carts are stacked in on the paddle video? looks great! I brought several cartridge holders from my personal collection to hold cartridges for the 2600+ stations at the booth. ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 8:57 AM, littaum said: I got a chance to play with the 2600+ as well at PRGE. Here are some basic thoughts: [...] - Keypad support was a no-go, so Star Raiders or Basic Programming is currently out. Sincerely thank-you for the detailed analysis! This is the kind of quality content that we are here for. I am saddened to hear about the keyboard. I was getting excited about playing Star Raiders again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Probably the most superfluous switch on a console EVER! You'd be surprised, some people would rather fill the screen, even if the aspect is wrong and the video is stretched. Edited October 16, 2023 by zzip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, zzip said: You'd be surprised, some people would rather fill the screen, even if the aspect is wrong and the video is stretched. This is very true based on my experiences speaking to people on this subject over the years. It is nice that the 2600+ gives you a choice. ..Al 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, DhaemonX said: Hey Ben, I heard the disappointing news about the game pad used by games like Star Raiders isn't working on the 2600+. Do you think this can be easily resolved by a future update? I might be wrong here, but let me spitball, I opened a keypad controller up a couple of weeks ago and I'm no engineer but it was very simple like there are no chips in it, its just PCB tracers from the keypad buttons straight into wires so I thought to myself that perhaps it works similar to a paddle controller in that maybe each of the keypad keys have a specific resistance level that denotes the particular key being pressed. Anyway, bottom line is I just need to get a keypad over to the hardware engineer and get him to look at it and see what he can do. If he figures it out and its possible of course we'll add it to a future software release, i'll report back here what he says. Edited October 16, 2023 by Ben from Plaion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, zzip said: You'd be surprised, some people would rather fill the screen, even if the aspect is wrong and the video is stretched. Ha, and here I am setting my TV to 4:3 while watching Columbo, because thick heads bug me more than black bars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+selgus Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: I might be wrong here, but let me spitball, I opened a keypad controller up a couple of weeks ago and I'm no engineer but it was very simple like there are no chips in it, its just PCB tracers from the keypad buttons straight into wires so I thought to myself that perhaps it works similar to a paddle controller in that maybe each of the keypad keys have a specific resistance level that denotes the particular key being pressed. It's a very simple circuit.. here is a schematic: 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 @Albert it was great seeing you and April again. As always, the AA booth is a site to behold. The banners are amazing and seeing one for each game was pretty cool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.o.terra kaesi Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) So "Ben from Plaion" was there in person? Other Atari staff too (except from Al :-))? Edited October 16, 2023 by m.o.terra kaesi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) After seeing some of the photos makes me curious to ask, Al, about how many 1702's do you own? 😲😲 Edited October 16, 2023 by AtariBrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+littaum Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, AtariBrian said: After seeing some of the photos makes me curious to ask Al about how many 1702's do you own? 😲😲 I think the answer is: All of them. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, m.o.terra kaesi said: So "Ben from Plaion" was there in person? Other Atari staff too (except from Al :-))? Yup just got back home now. It was a complete blast. Indeed there was also Atari staff in attendance. We worked a 2600+ area within the very impressive Atari Age stand - I was taken aback by the amount and quality of homebrew Atari games Al had on show... 2600, 5600, 7800, Lynx, Jaguar, it was all there and very slick that they were all plugged into those sweet Commodore CRTs, safe to say it was the best booth at the show! I was there talking to people about the 2600+, there were 5 machines on show where people could get a hands on with the new games along with other classic games and homebrew. I loved PGRE, it was a big show, I kept sneaking off to look around other stands and the Tetris World Championship which was very busy and had an electric atmosphere. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, zzip said: You'd be surprised, some people would rather fill the screen, even if the aspect is wrong and the video is stretched. That's what bezels are meant for. IMO the much better choice. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Albert said: 2 hours ago, zzip said: You'd be surprised, some people would rather fill the screen, even if the aspect is wrong and the video is stretched. This is very true based on my experiences speaking to people on this subject over the years. It is nice that the 2600+ gives you a choice. Yeah learned the hard way when widescreens first came out. When I see someone watching SD TV stretched, I'd assume they just didn't bother to adjust their TV and I'd offer to fix it... only to discover their distaste for black bars was as strong as my distaste for incorrect aspect ratio! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, zzip said: When I see someone watching SD TV stretched I did the opposite a while ago... I have the CRT downstairs, and had an old Firestick around and was wondering.... So I found a cheap (very cheap) HDMI to composite adapter online and hooked it up. That's when I found out that neither my old Firestick nor the adapter supported any top/bottom bars or going into 4:3 mode (for the Firestick)... It was just the widescreen Firestick display, squished to 4:3... I mean, it works... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, zzip said: Yeah learned the hard way when widescreens first came out. When I see someone watching SD TV stretched, I'd assume they just didn't bother to adjust their TV and I'd offer to fix it... only to discover their distaste for black bars was as strong as my distaste for incorrect aspect ratio! I was a fairly early adopter of HD getting my first Sony HDTV in 2004. There was a serious shortage of true HD content at the time. The broadcasters were taking their 4:3 content, even live broadcasts, and stretching/zooming to fill the screen because the average person would get upset if their new HDTV didn't fill the screen. It was a world of difference compared to today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Does Atari 2600+ have the moving flap/cover inside the cartridge slot like Woody has, or is it just the hole like in Junior? I find the second one more compatible with some unofficial carts with non-standard cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dalton said: Does Atari 2600+ have the moving flap/cover inside the cartridge slot like Woody has, or is it just the hole like in Junior? I find the second one more compatible with some unofficial carts with non-standard cases. No, it does not. ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) Some more 2600+ hype (starting at 3:22) Edited October 17, 2023 by Dr Karnov 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr Karnov said: Some more 2600+ hype (starting at 3:22) Breathed a sigh of relief watching that! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 8:00 AM, sramirez2008 said: @Albert it was great seeing you and April again. As always, the AA booth is a site to behold. The banners are amazing and seeing one for each game was pretty cool. Glad you were able to make it to Portland again, and it's always a pleasure to see you! I was able to display banners for all 21 new games, which was due to the larger nature of the booth (45' x 30'), as well as having two walls of pipe and draping on which to hang them from. Really love how that turned out!! ..Al 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Albert said: Glad you were able to make it to Portland again, and it's always a pleasure to see you! I was able to display banners for all 21 new games, which was due to the larger nature of the booth (45' x 30'), as well as having two walls of pipe and draping on which to hang them from. Really love how that turned out!! ..Al D@mn I wish I could make one of these shows, but it's a 36 hour drive which will never happen!!! If I fly, I couldn't being any of my equipment and would be very limited in what I could take back home. Shame there's no decent shows out east. Despite Ohio being labelled the "mid-west" - I am 90% of the way into the Atlantic. I will argue that we need to reclassify this, more than I will argue the "gif vs jif" Anyhow - congrats everyone to another great showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Just a heads up, the paddle controller is back up for preorder today on amazon. I ordered a second one, still no minus game variant though. Anybody want a paddle, get it now. * not sure why preorders should have limited numbers, but anyhow* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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