+DjayBee Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, zzip said: But I can't ever recall playing paddle games on Atari 8? I'm sure there's a few. Atarimania finds 282. That's a big lot of few. http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari-400-800-xl-xe-paddles_control_2_8_G.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: Where do you see the driving game and "Zorro"? I can see Zorro getting the Lee treatment potentially, but I'd be surprised about TGACCRR, since that's an Activision property. It's at the 22s mark in the video at Amazon UK. I see now that M.U.L.E. is one of the games. That should please a lot of people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, DjayBee said: Atarimania finds 282. That's a big lot of few. http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari-400-800-xl-xe-paddles_control_2_8_G.html I hesitate to claim that many because many of those are just tables made with Pinball Construction Set. Really, most of the major paddle games for the ATari 8-bit were from Atari I think, with the occasional addition from publishers like Datasoft. Similarly, for the C-64 and VIC-20, most of the major paddle games were from Commodore, although there are a few notable exceptions like for Arkanoid and Questron. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, davidcalgary29 said: It's at the 22s mark in the video at Amazon UK. That looks like MULE at the 22s mark. What about the racing game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, scelbi8h said: I love the idea of this mini Atari 400. But why the yellowed case color? It's supposed to be light grey... Check out this post from 4 hours ago: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/?do=findComment&comment=5386906 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, scelbi8h said: I love the idea of this mini Atari 400. But why the yellowed case color? It's supposed to be light grey... Mandela effect or undiagnosed color blindness — now taking bets! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: That looks like MULE at the 22s mark. What about the racing game? I can't figure out what it is! The mountains and the tree are rendered nicely...which rules out 99% of A8 driving games from the '80s. And that dashboard is unfamiliar, too. Maybe a European game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, davidcalgary29 said: I can't figure out what it is! The mountains and the tree are rendered nicely...which rules out 99% of A8 driving games from the '80s. And that dashboard is unfamiliar, too. Maybe a European game? No, I mean where in the video? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 25 games seems a bit sparse for one of these things. I know you can load your own games, but part of the attraction is the built-in games that you scroll through with artwork, etc. IDK, maybe that part can be hacked to add individual games and artwork, like people have done with the NES mini and others. I'm not sure if something similar has already been done with TheC64 mini or not. It's been around for long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Right side of the video -- screen above Berzerk at 22s. Battlezone is in there, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, MrFish said: 25 games seems a bit sparse. I know you can load your own games, but part of the attraction is the built-in games that you scroll through with artwork, etc. IDK, maybe that part can be hacked to add individual games and artwork, like people have done with the NES mini and others. I'm not sure if something similar has already been done with TheC64 mini or not. It's been around for long enough. I suspect one of the reasons we haven't seen much related to Atari 8-bit in the mainstream is precisely because of the lack of available IP outside of what Atari themselves owns. So 25 is about right. It's been easier with the Commodore stuff because there have been collections of games from various publishers (mostly from the European side) that have made it relatively easy to put together different combinations and more than "just" 25. I'd still say it's worth supporting regardless of the built-in game count as it's a relatively underrepresented platform in terms of mainstream coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, davidcalgary29 said: Right side of the video -- screen above Berzerk at 22s. Battlezone is in there, too. That's MULE. Can you take a screenshot and paste it here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, davidcalgary29 said: I can't figure out what it is! The mountains and the tree are rendered nicely...which rules out 99% of A8 driving games from the '80s. And that dashboard is unfamiliar, too. Maybe a European game? 9 minutes ago, davidcalgary29 said: Right side of the video -- screen above Berzerk at 22s. I think you're talking about Elektra Glide. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I think that the game above is Seven Cities of Gold, and not Zorro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, MrFish said: I think you're talking about Elektra Glide. You know I was thinking that it might be a Mastertronic game for a hot second, but thought "but I don't remember the graphics being that nice". I was wrong! I didn't play Elektra Glide in the '80s, even though I had a few Mastertronic flippies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 16 minutes ago, DjayBee said: Atarimania finds 282. That's a big lot of few. http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari-400-800-xl-xe-paddles_control_2_8_G.html But remove all those pinball tables (which are really the same game) how many is it? I see a few breakout/kaboom/circus Atari clones that benefit from paddles, And a number of games that work as well or better with joystick. For me, not having paddles won't hurt the experience at all, but if you're a fan of the games that absolutely need them, you will of course have a different opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, davidcalgary29 said: I think that the game above is Seven Cities of Gold, and not Zorro. Yes, it is, which I find VERY interesting. EA doesn't license out classic content anymore, so perhaps the rights reverted to the developers or something. So we have: Airball Battlezone (how?!) Berzerk Boulderdash Capture the Flag Crystal Castles Elektra Glide Lee (aka, Bruce Lee) Millipede M.U.L.E. Star Raiders II The Seven Cities of Gold (how?!) Zorro (it's likely it might be named something else) Yoomp! There may also be Centipede in the middle left and something I can't quite place in the upper right. That would get us to 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, davidcalgary29 said: You know I was thinking that it might be a Mastertronic game for a hot second, but thought "but I don't remember the graphics being that nice". I was wrong! I didn't play Elektra Glide in the '80s, even though I had a few Mastertronic flippies. I didn't really appreciate how good Elektraglide looked at the time, it was a cheap budget game, I didn't expect much from graphics. But looking at it now, it does stand out among A8 games! Edited January 12 by zzip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, zzip said: I didn't really appreciate how good Elektraglide looked at the time, it was a cheap budget game, I didn't expect much from graphics, but looking at it now, it does stand out among A8 games. That's also a perfect example of a game being designed with a particular platform in mind and being garbage on the other systems it was ported to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: Battlezone (how?!) Since this is a 3rd party creation, Atari didn't do the licensing, right? 3rd parties seem to license games we wish Atari would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Bill Loguidice said: I suspect one of the reasons we haven't seen much related to Atari 8-bit in the mainstream is precisely because of the lack of available IP outside of what Atari themselves owns. So 25 is about right. It's been easier with the Commodore stuff because there have been collections of games from various publishers (mostly from the European side) that have made it relatively easy to put together different combinations and more than "just" 25. I'd still say it's worth supporting regardless of the built-in game count as it's a relatively underrepresented platform in terms of mainstream coverage. Yeah, I'm not saying it isn't worth supporting because of that; but 40 - 50 seems like a minimum for something like this. I find it rather hard to believe that they can't dig up some more games to include; but I'd not want to see any shovelware on it. If they're not going to include more games, it would greatly add value to the device if there was a simple way to add games to the system with artwork and so forth (I don't mind bringing my own artwork, in fact I prefer it). I can browse lists of files in any emulator... Personally, I'll wait until the price drops, though -- which it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, davidcalgary29 said: I didn't play Elektra Glide in the '80s It has nice graphics, but I don't like the gameplay at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, MrFish said: Yeah, I'm not saying it isn't worth supporting because of that; but 40 - 50 seems like a minimum for something like this. I find it rather hard to believe that they can't dig up some more games to include; but I'd not want to see any shovelware on it. If they're not going to include more games, it would be greatly add value to the device if there was a simple way to add games to the system with artwork and so forth. I can browse lists of files in any emulator... Personally, I'll wait until the price drops, though -- which it will. 25 is very low for a system like this. But I think putting 25 and not 75 or 100 is a *wink wink* basically telling us to just download and add more roms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Bill Loguidice said: That's also a perfect example of a game being designed with a particular platform in mind and being garbage on the other systems it was ported to. It's funny, I had EletraGlide on an A8/C64 Flippy disk, so I took it to a Commodore friend's house to play. Back then I would have sworn the C64 was better. I think it was a case of 'grass is greener' I was enamored with how the SID music had sounds I would never hear on my A8, but would ignore the superior colors and shading on A8. Now if I compare both side by side, the A8 version is clearly better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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