Atariboy2600 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) .. Edited January 12 by Atariboy2600 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 only emulator.. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 hours ago, DrVenkman said: Hopefully (like the other spate of mini-consoles in recent years) this eventually gets a North American retail release. It's adorable enough that I kind of actually want one. It's showing on atari.com as waitlisted. https://atari.com/products/atari-400-mini 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steril707 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Guys, this is just a little SOC in a cute case with an emulator playing 8-bit Atari games. Like any other "mini"-console released out there over the last ten years. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stechmann Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 omg i think i just soiled myself how AWESOME is this! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stechmann Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) wait.... what? USB ports???? wtf so joysticks and paddles are NOT interchangeable with the 2600+??? which total moron made that decision Edited January 12 by Stechmann Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steril707 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, Stechmann said: wait.... what? USB ports???? wtf so joysticks and paddles are NOT interchangeable with the 2600+??? which total moron made that decision Again, this is not supposed to be a legit Atari machine. It's just an SOC with a fancy case running an emulator playing a selection of old games. This is not targeted at us die hards. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, w1k said: only emulator.. 1 hour ago, Steril707 said: Guys, this is just a little SOC in a cute case with an emulator playing 8-bit Atari games. Like any other "mini"-console released out there over the last ten years. Really??? I thought this was supposed to be an electric cheese grater. Alright close the topic, we've all been duped... 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, Atariboy2600 said: .... 5 hours ago, Atariboy2600 said: .. Please move the posts to the "Ignore..." - thread... 😉 Edited January 12 by Irgendwer 3 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Stechmann said: so joysticks and paddles are NOT interchangeable with the 2600+??? Both are published by Plaion but it's not the same maker to begin with. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cheez26 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 To clarify my edited statement, yes it is an emulator in a box and yes, it is probably using an emulator based on a crappy libretro core, BUT at least it'll easier-to-upgrade than the 2600+, with all due respect to @Ben from Plaion of course. HOWEVER, since both of these consoles are going to be upgradable, I'd say we should try to talk to the actual makers of THE400 Mini to improve on it, just like we did with 2600+. I'm sure there will be improvement in the future. All they really need to do is fork the libretro core (if they're gonna keep the stupid rewind feature) and improve the audio. OR we could create a community image like we did with the RetroN 77...only with (probably) better and easier-to-work-with hardware. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibstov Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 17 hours ago, Mercenary said: The 400 is a weird choice. Despite my favourite being the 130XE (for me, it's the best looking 8-bit Atari by far and I like the cartridge slot around the back) you'd think the 800XL - being the most popular - would be the choice for a mini. I guess maybe the argument is that the 400 has four joystick ports. But that’s a weak argument if they’re going for accuracy. I mean, the 400 didn’t play games that required more memory, or 5200 games, and the 400 also had a working keyboard. I doubt the mini 400 will have, just like the C64 mini didn’t. Plus, they could stick 4 ports on a 800XL mini I'm in agreement with Mr Robot that the 400 is the ugliest of the 8 bit systems. I'll pass on this. I would have went with the XEGS...but that's me. Always dug the look of the XEGS even when others didn't. (I also really love the look of the Atari 800 as well). 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Did the description change? No mention of the XE line in the current Amazon UK blurb Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 14 hours ago, MrFish said: Bonus! Pre-yellowed, for those who don't want to wait 40 years! 10 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, ClausB said: Bonus! Pre-yellowed, for those who don't want to wait 40 years! Yeah, but is the plastic good and brittle, so it'll get broken a little during shipping? And does it smell like a 25 year old dog that's never been bathed? 1 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 hours ago, Atariboy2600 said: The Atari 400 was my very first real home computer I had ever gotten in 79 and to this day its still working Please post a photo of the underside label in this thread: 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, MrFish said: I thought this was supposed to be an electric cheese grater. Could work... 😃 2 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Irgendwer said: Could work... 😃 Good find. I guess all hope is not lost. So, I might be having pizza and some nachos after all. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 hours ago, Stephen said: Bleeding ears, talking to a wall trying to convince otherwise "OK, let's go over the problems with this Star Trek theme one more time..." 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, Steril707 said: Again, this is not supposed to be a legit Atari machine. It's just an SOC with a fancy case running an emulator playing a selection of old games. This is not targeted at us die hards. But it can play 4-player M.U.L.E! It's going to suck some of us die-hards in whether we like it or not! 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+scorpio_ny Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 A lot of people have been discussing on why they went with the 400 as a model for this initial release. I think it is fitting since it was 45 years ago exactly when the Atari 400 and 800 was first released. For a lot of people, it was their very first computer and introduction to the Atari 8bit ecosystem then since it was the 800’s lower cost sibling. 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 7 hours ago, Steril707 said: Guys, this is just a little SOC in a cute case with an emulator playing 8-bit Atari games. Like any other "mini"-console released out there over the last ten years. And the point is....so is the Atari 2600+, so is Gamestation Pro.. IF there is no input lag (like a true FPGA) my brain cant tell the difference. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+scorpio_ny Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, zzip said: But it can play 4-player M.U.L.E! It's going to suck some of us die-hards in whether we like it or not! I think the question is how it will handle games that need paddles or a trackball. Also, how the 5200 controller support is going to be implemented? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, scorpio_ny said: A lot of people have been discussing on why they went with the 400 as a model for this initial release. I think it is fitting since it was 45 years ago exactly when the Atari 400 and 800 was first released. For a lot of people, it was their very first computer and introduction to the Atari 8bit ecosystem then since it was the 800’s lower cost sibling. My guess is it's because the 400 is the most unique of the Atari 8-bit designs. Personally it's my least favorite, but I can see why it might work well for a retro designed gadget like this. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just my opinion on the chosen case. I agree with others who state the 400 and 800 are classic designs, and obviously a lot of thought was put into them. I think the mini 400 looks great, and was a good choice for Atari's first 8-bit offering in the modern era. Now, having said that, my first computer was an 800XL, so I also have a lot of nostalgia for that design. While a much simpler design than the 400/800, I appreciate it's clean lines and simplicity. I don't really care for the look of the XE versus the XL for the 8-bit line, although I do like the ST styling (which is basically the same, just, larger). And I did use a 130XE for a few years while my 800XL was running a BBS 24/7. ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/359451-the400-mini/page/6/#findComment-5386994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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