luckybuck Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Did not check yet, i am on a mac and always wait for Mark.... But i am sure, Avery is gonna make it. :-)))) Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5206120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 Principles of Economics (1979)(Atari)(US)[cassette] The Dorsett Educational system uses the Master Cartridge in conjunction with educational tapes that include vocal/audio instruction. Since this seems to be more of a "streaming" system rather than a "load-the-program-and-run" type system, I decided to rate the overall experience of each recording I made (yes, I took each lesson). Each WAV* contains 2 lessons and I rate them separately. I rate each lesson from 6.0 to 10.0, 10.0 being the best. Anything lower and it is not a good enough experience to be usable. .1 point is taken off for each screen that has visual anomalies on it to a max of 1 whole point, if it continues throughout but is not massive. .5 points are taken off if the lesson stops in the middle of a vocal/audio part of the lesson for up to 5 times (2.5 total pts). Any more and it is not a good enough experience to be usable. .5 points are taken off if one question/answer cannot be visually recognized. Any more than one and it is not a good enough experience to be usable. Any rating below 6.0 gets recorded and reviewed again. I have embedded the grading into the name of the WAV. A is for the first lesson and B is for the second. Principles of Economics is represented below: Principles of Economics Cassette A Side 1 (A=9.9,B=9.8) Principles of Economics Cassette A Side 2 (A=9.8,B=10) Principles of Economics Cassette B Side 1 (A=9.3,B=9.5) Principles of Economics Cassette B Side 2 (A=9.9,B=9.9) Principles of Economics Cassette C Side 1 (A=8.0,B=9.0) Principles of Economics Cassette C Side 2 (A=9.9,B=9.9) Principles of Economics Cassette D Side 1 (A=8.0,B=9.0)[spliced] - A splice means each lesson is from different recordings, but work as a complete cassette side. Principles of Economics Cassette D Side 2 (A=8.5,B=9.3) *Since CAS cannot carry the vocal/audio portion of the recordings, no CAS files are included. You need all 5 zips for a complete set Principles of Economics Cassette A.zip Principles of Economics Cassette B.zip Principles of Economics Cassette C.zip Principles of Economics Cassette D.zip Principles of Economics All Other Assets.zip Principles of Economics Warranty.pdf Principles of Economics Catalog Rev. 3.pdf 4 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5207805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 hours ago, SoulBuster said: Principles of Economics (1979)(Atari)(US)[cassette] I believe that these huge files are beyond the size which the forum's software can handle reliably. A few hours ago I downloaded Basic Electricity and had to do it three times to yield a good file. The two first times the end was truncated in different places. This time I already failed twice with the same problem. Please split the file in half. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5207938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, DjayBee said: I believe that these huge files are beyond the size which the forum's software can handle reliably. A few hours ago I downloaded Basic Electricity and had to do it three times to yield a good file. The two first times the end was truncated in different places. This time I already failed twice with the same problem. Please split the file in half. I just downloaded it on the first try, no problems. I have a 1 gig cable internet connection and it took about a minute. What is yours? Slower might be worse. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5207948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, DjayBee said: This time I already failed twice with the same problem. Please split the file in half. Could also upload it as a multipart ZIP/RAR Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5207949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 deleted Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5207953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 The networks are jammed with packets, super bowl weekend and international web probes/spam.... I think I downloaded it fine though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5207955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 having problems uploading. lets see if there is a problem tomorrow then Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5207958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, SoulBuster said: I just downloaded it on the first try, no problems. I have a 1 gig cable internet connection and it took about a minute. What is yours? Slower might be worse. I only have 50 MBit but never had any trouble before, neither here on Atari Age, nor with files of several dozens GB from archive.org. My ETA was some eight or nine minutes and the downloads did NOT end in an error, only the files were truncated. Perhaps the forum has a time limit for downloads and terminates them if it takes longer. But as you wrote: Let's wait for tomorrow. I will also try from my office which has 200 MBit. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, DjayBee said: I only have 50 MBit but never had any trouble before, neither here on Atari Age, nor with files of several dozens GB from archive.org. My ETA was some eight or nine minutes and the downloads did NOT end in an error, only the files were truncated. Perhaps the forum has a time limit for downloads and terminates them if it takes longer. But as you wrote: Let's wait for tomorrow. I will also try from my office which has 200 MBit. question how to know truncated if no error? will it error when windows opens it or? Mine did not error on download or windows open, have not converted yet though Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: will it error when windows opens it or? I use 7zip to extract the files. Most of the time it immediately tells me that the file is truncated as soon as I open it. But when I try to extract any of the files which are at or behind the cut-off point, it always throws an error. My comment re. no error meant the downloading browser. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) I think the last file is a txt file, I will click on it and see if it dies. *edit* seems okay the text file opened. Edited February 12, 2023 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 I dumped all the files into a new folder and no problems. When downloading through http, just about anything can cause a download interruption, so the faster the better. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Hmmm, now the file has gone. Invision tells me "Unavailable" below the file name. Edited February 13, 2023 by DjayBee Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebottle Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Those smiling faces on the box artwork are funny/ironic considering how worthless money is 40+ years later. Does anybody really want to know how "economics" works now? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 5 hours ago, firebottle said: Those smiling faces on the box artwork are funny/ironic considering how worthless money is 40+ years later. Does anybody really want to know how "economics" works now? The point of making these recordings is to archive them, not to use for current day lessons. Although the Basic Electricity was informative. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 I changed Economics and Electricity into 5 zips each. If you already downloaded the 2 gig file, you do not need these. You need all 5 zips to equal the 2 gig file. Basic Electricity Principles of Economics 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 These are still great, very foundational. Though, folks really have no clue what fractional banking is today, or the difference between currency and money. The system employed by the Federal reserve (which is not Federal, it's just a name just like Federal Express), leaves no way to repay debt since it does not print money to cover that interest or debt. This kind of thing is only possible when people do not know or understand. I sure don't see any of it in schools now, heck, reading. writing, math... that's not even considered the most important focus. Might as well re visit this stuff as a retro hobby so our kids have some slight chance to be educated in some small way. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, _The Doctor__ said: These are still great, very foundational. Though, folks really have no clue what fractional banking is today, or the difference between currency and money. The system employed by the Federal reserve (which is not Federal, it's just a name just like Federal Express), leaves no way to repay debt since it does not print money to cover that interest or debt. This kind of thing is only possible when people do not know or understand. I sure don't see any of it in schools now, heck, reading. writing, math... that's not even considered the most important focus. Might as well re visit this stuff as a retro hobby so our kids have some slight chance to be educated in some small way. Yea, I like how they are geared for repetition to drill it in your head from memory. It made it easier to review them repetitively to find the best ones. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5208574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 The original posts for Analog 38 and 39 have been updated, to include the additional material. Analog #38 Analog #39 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5209077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 Analog Issue #40 (Disk 1 & 2 Sourced from A8SP) GRAPHICE.LST is enter into the Graphics E program from issue #21 for double the image size. CLASH.BAS creates a file or a cassette for The Clash of Kings game. The resulting CAS does not load. I cannot figure out why. This means there is not ATR for it either. The AUTORUN.SYS that is created works though. It is on the Additional disk as CLASH.OBJ.KING1.M65, KINGEQU.M65, KING.DAT and KING2.M65 are the assembly listing. They compile into a complete and working game. MOUSER.M65 is saved on disk 2 of Analog, but it is in Text format not Mac/65 format. I save a Mac/65 version to the Additional disk. It does compile. ALPHA1.LST and ALPHA2.LST does not allow alpha characters to be typed, only numeric characters. Helps with Data Entry. SLIDESHO.BAS creates a file or a cassette. A CAS and and ATR from that CAS are included. No further testing done as It takes some Koala pics, none handy. ANALOG Computing #40 (1986-03)(ANALOG Magazine Corp.)(US)[disk].zip 3 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5209078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 Analog #41 The original post has been updated to include missing items. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5211016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 Babel (1981)(APX)(US)[disk] - does not autoboot program Babel (1981)(APX)(US)[disk].zip 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5211036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Comedy Disk (1981)(APX)(US)[disk] - does not autoboot program Comedy Disk (1981)(APX)(US)[disk].zip Edited February 17, 2023 by SoulBuster 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5211043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 Developer's Disk (1982)(APX)(US)[disk] - does not autoboot program Developer's Disk (1982)(APX)(US)[disk].zip 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/321959-8-bit-software-a-preservation-effort/page/31/#findComment-5211046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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