Intellivision Amico’s trademark changed to ‘abandoned’

[jerseystyle]

3 minutes ago, 82-T/A said:

 

I have to agree with you on this. I watched the video a couple of months ago... maybe I missed what everyone was referring to, but I didn't really see what people were talking about. I think it was more... "Hey kid... stop obsessing and making the game look bad in the video," and not any kind of "abuse" as people are saying. You can love your kids, and still be willing to talk frankly to them when needed.

I could understand that. I appreciate your voicing your opinion in a non aggressive way. I’m referring to more than the video but I don’t want this thread to devolve into an argument on whose parents beat who more.  I think we can agree that his stance on the Amico and loyalty to TT in spite of all reason is enough to question his judgment.

[82-T/A]

4 minutes ago, jerseystyle said:

I could understand that. I appreciate your voicing your opinion in a non aggressive way. I’m referring to more than the video but I don’t want this thread to devolve into an argument on whose parents beat who more.  I think we can agree that his stance on the Amico and loyalty to TT in spite of all reason is enough to question his judgment.

The desire to see an outcome for something we care so much about, can often cloud our judgement. I don't really know all these people... my daughter tells me this TT guy is the one who did the "oof" on Roblox, and apparently he developed a lot of music for games from the 90s. Beyond that, I don't really know the people all being mentioned.

 

For the Amico... hah... I have my comments a few hundred pages back. If it came out tomorrow... and it was actually "available," I might consider buying it... but it does seem to be somewhat of a shit-show going on. My guess is they're hoping for a miracle at this point... but it seems to be Intellivision's Atari VCS so to speak... but still in the prototype stage. Atari put a lot of effort into their VCS, and while it hasn't been financially the success they wanted... it's been a fantastic product thus far with a fairly loyal following (includes me). Atari had to put up with a lot of the same stuff that the Amico people are dealing with now, but... Atari managed to get themselves together and put out a great product. Amico still seems to be digging themselves a grave.

[+Stephen]

Bunch of softees here.  No wonder we're going down the tube if this is what we consider "detrimental abuse".  Get a bit thicker skin folks.  I agree.  I heard abuse and then I see the source?  It's slander to him to call that parental abuse.

[MrBeefy]

I'm a mandated reporter and this doesn't rise to the level or I would be required by law to report.

 

It is a bad look which is different than actual abuse. Mullis has shown repeatedly he will ignore do and say to feel right. Would I nudge my kid like that to get him to STFU because I didn't want to possibly hurt Teet's feelings? No, I wouldn't. If my kid said they felt lag, made fun of the physics, or whatever I'd listen to them or at least make fun of it with them.

 

I would say he uses his kids as shields. Like when he got mad at Smash for showing his video with his kids in it. Mullis showed his kids publicly to the world. Smash wasn't making fun of his kids but Mullis acted like he was. Mullis had only himself to blame. If he doesn't want videos publicly shown of his kids he shouldn't publicly show his kids.

 

Blur them out or something. Is Mullis playing a perpetual victim for his idiocy in joining a cult and following a failed console like he did with the Phantom? Yes. Does that make him abusive? No.

 

Douchebag /= Abusive

 

I had plenty of people here implying similar things and spreading lies about me to mods, YouTubers, etc.

 

Amico wasn't built around ideas. It was built around bullying people to get them to shut up so they can take more money. It's still going on, it's just harder to hide it. Think about it. Tommy started at AA. Called everyone haters who didn't join his cult. Did it on YT too. Got people to attack. Then when he didn't have that, he went to a less open FB group. Now an even less Discord group.

 

Whoever told Tommy he needs to stop coming to AA to fight people, and get to work on the console had it figured out. I'm pretty sure someone suggested it publicly.

 

Now I need to go be the terrible parent Tommy and friends accused me of. My son is wanting to play with porn toys today. It isn't the wholesome Side Swipers so someone should call family services on me. If you need the local number for family services near me send me a PM and I can give you the number.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and hit that 👍 to like and subscribe and turn on those 🔔 notifications.....

 

 

after you make your reports of course. 

 

[MrBeefy]

Can someone politely tell Jay he could ask for the refund, and then if by some Christmas miracle a console comes out, to just buy it then...

I'm starting to wo Der about the differences in how/why certain people have received refunds while others have not received the refund requested. I remember the big thing Tommy an other idiots claimed showed they were done with the console was in regards to Figs website and their campaign of only $1.

 

Since Fig was crowdfunding and is now basically gone. I wonder if those who ordered from there are the ones not getting their refunds?

 

Ah I found one of my favorite posts.

Which leads me back to good ole Fig.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200417195907/https://www.fig.co/campaigns/amico

 

Which it does say refundable. Maybe the problem could be these people need to contact republic instead of Intellivision.

 

I also found this Which didn't age well when looking for my Fig link.

Can we all agree at this point that the Ouya was done dirty as it existed at a reasonable price point and shouldn't be compared to the vaporware scam console that the marketplace showed couldn't get more than 10,000 people interested in a "non-committal" preorder?

 

Do we all agree that Amico turned out WORSE than the Chameleon? IMO Amico is what would have happened to Chameleon if it had more money behind it.

[jerseystyle]

3 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

Can someone politely tell Jay he could ask for the refund, and then if by some Christmas miracle a console comes out, to just buy it then...

I'm starting to wo Der about the differences in how/why certain people have received refunds while others have not received the refund requested. I remember the big thing Tommy an other idiots claimed showed they were done with the console was in regards to Figs website and their campaign of only $1.

 

Since Fig was crowdfunding and is now basically gone. I wonder if those who ordered from there are the ones not getting their refunds?

 

Ah I found one of my favorite posts.

Which leads me back to good ole Fig.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200417195907/https://www.fig.co/campaigns/amico

 

Which it does say refundable. Maybe the problem could be these people need to contact republic instead of Intellivision.

 

I also found this Which didn't age well when looking for my Fig link.

Can we all agree at this point that the Ouya was done dirty as it existed at a reasonable price point and shouldn't be compared to the vaporware scam console that the marketplace showed couldn't get more than 10,000 people interested in a "non-committal" preorder?

 

Do we all agree that Amico turned out WORSE than the Chameleon? IMO Amico is what would have happened to Chameleon if it had more money behind it.

I’d agree- the Ouya actually released and the Chameleon (what a dumb name) didn’t actually take money from people. So both are leaps above the Amico.

[MrBeefy]

48 minutes ago, jerseystyle said:

I’d agree- the Ouya actually released and the Chameleon (what a dumb name) didn’t actually take money from people. So both are leaps above the Amico.

I didn't follow Chameleon, but I though some did lose some money. Not to the scope of Amico of course.

[Razzie.P]

I wonder if Tommy can get another Guinness record for "Most money for non-existent console" or something.   That's probably the one thing they did better than all the rest -- Suckers like Sony, MS, and Nintendo had to actually produce something to rake in the millions. 

[MrBeefy]

32 minutes ago, Razzie.P said:

I wonder if Tommy can get another Guinness record for "Most money for non-existent console" or something.   That's probably the one thing they did better than all the rest -- Suckers like Sony, MS, and Nintendo had to actually produce something to rake in the millions. 

I'm sure he has enough money to buy one with all the money he earned wasting time at AA and not making a console.

[jerseystyle]

1 hour ago, MrBeefy said:

I didn't follow Chameleon, but I though some did lose some money. Not to the scope of Amico of course.

My memory might be off, but I’m fairly sure they never took money. I think they were gonna do a kickstarter but it was shut down before it started.  But it’s been years, so y’all feel free to correct me

[MrBeefy]

30 minutes ago, jerseystyle said:

My memory might be off, but I’m fairly sure they never took money. I think they were gonna do a kickstarter but it was shut down before it started.  But it’s been years, so y’all feel free to correct me

I guess I should have been more specific. I don't think there were any consumers who lost out or weird crowdfunding investors. I'm sure someone lost money on getting the molds or whatever. I might be wrong.

[MrBeefy]

I wanted to drop this here. Many of us were predicting this years ago. The technical issues is something I even assumed they'd get ironed out before production. Guess I was wrong on that.

 

The games are not for the target market and there is no real value there when you can get a better product and games for cheaper.

Also I think jaybird3rd and a sock puppet need to go tell William that his sister's made up, as are the comments about the price being too high.

 

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I'm going to enjoy some family time playing SMB Wonder on the porn machine with my family tonight!

 

Merry Christmas everyone!

 

 

[Bill Loguidice]

I love it. Despite all the talk, they somehow made gaming more complicated than ever, not less. 

[SegaMasterSystemPunk]

Does anyone remember how many pages long the happy thoughts thread was by the time the Amico subforum was closed down and hidden away from scrutiny? 

[+GoldLeader]

On 12/23/2023 at 10:14 AM, MrBeefy said:

Can someone politely tell Jay he could ask for the refund, and then if by some Christmas miracle a console comes out, to just buy it then...

I'm starting to wo Der about the differences in how/why certain people have received refunds while others have not received the refund requested. I remember the big thing Tommy an other idiots claimed showed they were done with the console was in regards to Figs website and their campaign of only $1.

 

Since Fig was crowdfunding and is now basically gone. I wonder if those who ordered from there are the ones not getting their refunds?

 

Ah I found one of my favorite posts.

Which leads me back to good ole Fig.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200417195907/https://www.fig.co/campaigns/amico

 

Which it does say refundable. Maybe the problem could be these people need to contact republic instead of Intellivision.

 

I also found this Which didn't age well when looking for my Fig link.

Can we all agree at this point that the Ouya was done dirty as it existed at a reasonable price point and shouldn't be compared to the vaporware scam console that the marketplace showed couldn't get more than 10,000 people interested in a "non-committal" preorder?

 

Do we all agree that Amico turned out WORSE than the Chameleon? IMO Amico is what would have happened to Chameleon if it had more money behind it.

 

I know it's been said many times before, but it just hit me (again and harder)...

 

Look at that post TT wrote!  If he'd spent all that energy working on the console instead of arguing with his imaginary enemies...Maybe he would have...well,  at least released something and then the market could have decided!   If those levels of time and energy were spent fixing all the problems,  they might have actually had something good.

[MrBeefy]

12 hours ago, SegaMasterSystemPunk said:

Does anyone remember how many pages long the happy thoughts thread was by the time the Amico subforum was closed down and hidden away from scrutiny? 

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6 hours ago, GoldLeader said:

 

I know it's been said many times before, but it just hit me (again and harder)...

 

Look at that post TT wrote!  If he'd spent all that energy working on the console instead of arguing with his imaginary enemies...Maybe he would have...well,  at least released something and then the market could have decided!   If those levels of time and energy were spent fixing all the problems,  they might have actually had something good.

That's what I'm saying. I was probably the biggest fan of the idea of this console than anyone here (family gaming, not a nostalgia reason). That's why I created this. Everyone around here was wishcasting games that weren't kid or casual friendly.

I like Metroidvanias but I'm not delusional to think my casual gaming wife or toddler kid wanted to play them.

 

It would be a stretch to assume it would be good if he spent time working. But it should have at least been made. I've seen emails from a manufacturer saying they'd source the parts and stuff for it. However, he was too busy going on YT and attacking anyone like me who just didn't jump into his cult. Because of this the firmware and games were never done. You can't really say the hardware was done either since it never passed certs. Yeah they had a design, but a proof of concept is far from a manufacture ready device.

 

I'm fairly positive that is why they lost that $1 million to Ark. They never had the preorder or purchase order numbers they claimed. No one is going to give them a line of credit, the size he claimed, they had when they had no solid evidence they could pay it back.

 

I suspect that is why they also made the physical product with no console in sight. Make them or lose the money. They knew there would be gullible marks to give them money, because instead of looking at the red flags, they'd assume that meant console was coming soon.

 

No towards the end of 2019 it was about giving loans, paying himself back, and taking a salary while not doing anything but trying to get a buyout or keep getting marks to send them money.

 

Even in the early days OEB got information wrong in his videos that conflicted what Tommy would say. However, Tommy was feeding them things to say and didn't care about misinformation if it made Amico look better than it was. He would continue to meet with them, tell them to stop being friends with people they've known, ban people like me from being on their channel or podcasts, because their plan sucked and failed so hard. Did he really think that random nobodies could affect the consoles success? It was more he knew it failed and didn't need people to see it so they would throw more money. How many people around here ordered every color shell? Ordered swag off their shop? Wanted that golden ticket for their "giveaways"? Ordered the physical product? Put money into Fig, Republic, or tried StartEngine?

 

I know I work mental health but I'm not anything special, and I am disappointed that so many around here couldn't see through the lies and BS until all the money was gone. Hell you still have gullible marks sending them money for Amico Home thinking it will actually help with manufacturing. If they aren't manufacturing them right now, they aren't coming in the summer of 2024.

 

[livingonwheels]

Random, somewhat amusing, Amico Discord quotes:

 

I understand that we all wanna see the amico come out in some way I think amico home is a good step in that direction. 

 

People in here arguing like it's 2020... ie couldn't manufacture a console with over 12 million and 30+ employees.  It's extreme delusion to think they can still manufacture a console with the few thousand dollars they collected from selling the games on the app store  and  employees. Regardless of how bad they want to and how well intended they are. That's not dealing in hypotheticals. That's dealing In facts.

 

As an early investor I am happy to see a pulse still exists.Just hope they develop traction and get things working.

 

Phil Adam doesn't hide that the goal of Amico Home is to attract investors. What I wondered is how come Atari could attract investors despite having no visible path to become profitable, while Intellivision could not despite having a solid business plan. The first thing that comes to my mind is a lack of credibility. So, in my mind, if Intellivision can make itself look like a credible company, if Intellivision can come to the point where it can say, "We have a product, now we just need to be able to market it in order to become profitable", the chances that the company could attract investors are there. At least that's my point of view.

 

Amico Home was released so people can enjoy and experience Amico games and have a taste of what's to come.
The plan is to attract and gain traction with Amico Home so there can be an actual console mass production.
The next step would be to possibly release the Amico controller to help the ultimate goal of releasing the Amico console.

 

Hey everyone ! Loving Amico Home. Me and my GF love playing  Shark Shark and Side Swipers on our Vontar Android box. The games don't load threw the Amico Home App yet . But once I sync our phones with it and run the games separate after that it works. She loves using her phone as a controller. Well done on releasing it  

 

Good work on this one so far i have a good feeling for this platform with astrosmash and shark shark and hopefully finnigan fox soon.

 

amico home+money= produce consoles and controllers 

 

hi mike, i used to watch you on the amico forever show back when i was following the project more closer. it seems a lot has changed from the original vision and what tommy tallarico had talked about. i know covid through a wrench in the gears. are you still in touch with tommy these days? 

 

Welcome to the server!   He's doing ok.  I do talk to him.

 

is he ever gonna come back to amico or is he moved on and focusing on VideoGamesLive stuff now? 

 

Lets keep this a positive group for people who are interested in trying the Amico home or have legitimate questions. There are plenty of other platforms to be haters on lol

 

The console is still the goal that we're all working towards. Totally understandable if amico home isn't for everyone, but its the best path right now towards the endgame!

 

so is there a timeline of events that can make this happen? i mean if there are X amount of amico home games sold will that be enough to fund hardware? or can we do a kickstarter or somethjing to help

 

John Alvarado is the main active team member here who could answer questions with authority.

 

No matter how Intellivision pitch the crowdfunding, the small group of YouTubers who constantly try to attack Intellivision by any means necessary will spin this pitch into something bad. The only way to have a successful crowdfunding would be to have more people making honest videos in order to give more balanced view. It's sad, but that's the way it is.

 

Some of the testers have consoles to help with that, I don't know if its been announced that it is 100% ready or not.

 

Yeah that does add to the difficulty. The sad thing is they just do it because it gets views. Hate is very clickable. They don't even need a real reason to dislike Amico but its in their interest to lie/slander/whatever just to get clicks.

 

I've got a plan to help. Ive ordered some parts to help livestream Amico Home. And me and my GF will play some games each day. If we get enough people streaming how fun Amico Home is we will drown out any of the negativity. No need to try and silence them.

 

To help, I am still doing family gaming streams with our pilot console.

 

thats really cool that you get the full couch co op experience with your kiddos. thats really what its been all about since the beginning.

 

but if the company is still surviving then its not over til the fat lady sings

 

Playing Amico home on my new s23 all day on my day off

 

john, is tommy tallarico still a part of the company? i saw on the site he was moved down the staff page quite a bit. does he still have a say in what goes on with amico? involved at all?

 

It has become clear to me today that Intellivision has big plans for Amico Home to be successful on a broad range of devices and if that can include Nintendo, Playstation and Xbox then you really can reach a far and wide broader audience customer base and give Intellivision a very bright potential future in the industry. WIthout the access on Nintendo, Playstation or Xbox, I fear Intellivision will continue to struggle unnecessarily.  Get those games out there to the masses on as many platforms and consoles as you can. Great plan Mr Alvarado! You have regained my support today good sir. This is a great Christmas Eve after all. I will continue drunking and enjoy the evening. Cheers!

 

this is exactly what motivated me in the first place to get behind this console. the fact that it IS'NT meant for the big three (sony, xbox, nintendo) as a journalist yourself im sure u are well aware of those three having practically a stranglehold over the gamings industry for quite some time now(as far as consoles go). and yes, there was the sega dreamcast but that is practically ancient history at this point. the amico games are no longer exclisive, yes. theyre on mobile phones now yes which is kindof ironic because thats what the detractors claimed. but its actually unique because of how the app pairs multiple devices, so i dont think they were entirely correct at the time. basically what im trying to say is that they are still trying to get this thing out against all odds. no one expected the pandemic. i think it is commendable that they are still trying. its been nice to see it still have momentum albeit a slight shift in tragectory

 

I think the Amico console will retain its own appeal to families for ease of use and not exposing kids to other types of not family-friendly content.

 

hello! with all the misinformation out there about the amico it is good to see an official community like this and i thank intellivision for sticking with the project. i would like to bring the joy of family gaming to my loved ones this christmas and i wonder if anyone has tips about setting things up - i have an ios device and my family has androids can we play together? if i had to pick one game that is the most impressive and fun for a group of at least 4 what should i choose?

 

We have never announced a basketball game . We did announce a baseball game , which was in development but is currently paused until we get more funding.

 

Cornhole is a prime candidate for porting to Amico Home. It would have been one of the first few except we are very concerned about people accidentally throwing their phones at their TV. We are still concerned because people don’t usually have lanyards on their phones. I think it would be safer to wait for the physical controllers to come out because they come with lanyards.

Edited December 27, 2023 by livingonwheels

[rayik]

Pat & Ian's coverage of the Amico really shows the lack of development of anything - games, console - over the years.  Cats & Swords screenshot was show in 2019!

 

Below is link to all the Amico videos put out on CPU podcast:

 

 

[Bill Loguidice]

2 hours ago, livingonwheels said:

I think the Amico console will retain its own appeal to families for ease of use and not exposing kids to other types of not family-friendly content.

 

As a parent, I love this one the most. Ignoring the fact that every platform has some type of parental controls (should you even care about such a thing) for a moment, it's amazing this would be any type of a selling point to a potential audience that actually exists. It's like this is trying to target the parents who care enough about what their kids get exposed to, yet want to be completely hands-off post-purchase of a game console. I don't see how the two ideas can possibly co-exist in one person. (Of course, that's also ignoring the fact that this hypothetical parent would even know about something like the Amico even existing.) Either you are so actively involved in your kid's activities that there wouldn't be any danger of "spill over" or you're so hands-off that having a supposedly family-friendly console wouldn't even matter to you (or, I don't know, some combination thereof, including putting some trust in your child into the mix). And obviously, there's considerable debate about what makes a platform family-friendly in the first place. Clearly, violence and destruction are and always have been on the table for Amico, so I guess this is for wholesome American families only? 

[roots.genoa]

4 hours ago, livingonwheels said:

theyre on mobile phones now yes which is kindof ironic because thats what the detractors claimed. but its actually unique because of how the app pairs multiple devices, so i dont think they were entirely correct at the time.

Yeah, we were wrong. The games are actually way worse than mobile games. 🙂

[roots.genoa]

1 hour ago, Bill Loguidice said:

so I guess this is for wholesome American families only?

Yes, it has always been, despite the strong German input. Actually working in Germany was a good idea since they are very strict about censorship there, but I always said Amico games cater too much to the US crowd: cornhole, baseball, Evel Knievel... And the weird basketball franchise (don't remember the name). We don't care about them in Europe. Tallarico wanted a bocce game but of course it never materialized.

[SteveTheColecoDude]

7 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

And the weird basketball franchise (don't remember the name). We don't care about them in Europe.

Harlem Globetrotters. The players were personally helping Tommy design the game!

 

[SegaMasterSystemPunk]

7 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

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so give it some 5-6 years and this will be the longest Amico thread ever! Wouldn't that be something?

[Shawn]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:19 PM, jerseystyle said:

I’d agree- the Ouya actually released and the Chameleon (what a dumb name) didn’t actually take money from people. So both are leaps above the Amico.

 

Oh the The RetroVGS\Coleco Chameleon wanted money they just didn't have the bare minimum for kickstarter to even let them take it. Then Indigogo went bye bye cause the fake proto, caputure card in a jag shell got called for what it was and outed as BS right here on AA. Mike wanted peoples money but he wasn't able to get it or he would have.

[jerseystyle]

11 minutes ago, Shawn said:

 

Oh the The RetroVGS\Coleco Chameleon wanted money they just didn't have the bare minimum for kickstarter to even let them take it. Then Indigogo went bye bye cause the fake proto, caputure card in a jag shell got called for what it was and outed as BS right here on AA. Mike wanted peoples money but he wasn't able to get it or he would have.

Oh I agree that the intention was to take money from people. But, since they didn’t actually get to do that, I think Amico wins the scum-off. Also the Chameleon shills didn’t organize behind the scenes to shut down dissent, so there’s that too