Breakpack Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Snapped this pic while checking FB Inspired? I bet Mike sure was 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leods Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 It occurs to me that Mike could very well possibly maybe perhaps have a working prototype. The problem is that if he ever brings it out, who will believe him? Boy who cried wolf and all that. No one has to believe him. If he Shows the prototype working in a non rigged Situation it is proof it exists. Doesn't matter what People what to believe in. A fact is a fact. The fact he's not willing to Show anything at all just makes People wonder wether he even has a Hardware guy. At this Point anything he could Show would be better than nothing. And still he keeps silent. This fake proto is all over tweeter and Forums. It is completely illogical to assume Mike has anything even resembling a prototype if he had to use a DVR PCB to fake a prototype. Even if the prototype board is so shit it won#t even turn on it would still be better to use that for the Picture. Talking about possibilities now is saying something like: Maybe a Meteorite came out of the sky and crashed on their prototype. Maybe Nintendo payed a Ninja to steal the board and plans from them, and they'll use Mike's ideas on the Nintendo NX. It's possible. 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 No one has to believe him. If he Shows the prototype working in a non rigged Situation it is proof it exists. Doesn't matter what People what to believe in. A fact is a fact. The fact he's not willing to Show anything at all just makes People wonder wether he even has a Hardware guy. At this Point anything he could Show would be better than nothing. And still he keeps silent. This fake proto is all over tweeter and Forums. It is completely illogical to assume Mike has anything even resembling a prototype if he had to use a DVR PCB to fake a prototype. Even if the prototype board is so shit it won#t even turn on it would still be better to use that for the Picture. Talking about possibilities now is saying something like: Maybe a Meteorite came out of the sky and crashed on their prototype. Maybe Nintendo payed a Ninja to steal the board and plans from them, and they'll use Mike's ideas on the Nintendo NX. It's possible. It was more a "yet another" comment on Mike's credibility. I, for one, don't believe he ever had anything started, other than the shell. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janus Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Mike will release a working console and put all you haters to shame.Have you thought just maybe HE INTENTIONALLY ADDED DVR FUNCTIONALITY to the Chameleon, hence "Making it better", DUH! 7 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBloke Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Talking about possibilities now is saying something like: Maybe a Meteorite came out of the sky and crashed on their prototype. Maybe Nintendo payed a Ninja to steal the board and plans from them, and they'll use Mike's ideas on the Nintendo NX. It's possible. Im putting 50 internet pounds on his dog ate the prototype Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
galax Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 So that means that Piko is still on board, and he thinks that there may be a real prototype coming? What do you mean 'on board'? Piko sells game cartridges, and claims to have talked on the phone to people that Mike introduced as hardware developers. Mike offered to resell his cartridges as part of the CC thing. Piko has been completely honest and transparent about everything that's happened so far. Just because he's not as skeptical as the rest of us jaded cynics doesn't make him part of the enemy. I guess people just feel its guilt by association. It does seem like Mike is/was still trying to dupe Piko into believing the system actually exists. I can think of 2 reasons for this. Without Piko, the chameleon would have just about no games. Also, he knows Piko has been posting here so Mike was maybe hoping Piko would post positive things here to make us doubt his system was fake. Like this: "I haven't seen the insides yet =@; But I have heard the proto they showed on pics running software over a call. I cannot think a way they could have fake that." Which obviously they did have a way to fake it. Probably just running on an emulator on a pc or their SD2SNES cart and SNES mini proto. Could have been a SNES, could have been a PC emulator, could be a real FPGA that they are developing but haven't delivered to Mike yet. Who knows? Mike is making the real FPGA option look less and less of a reality with each fake prototype though. If he is developing something real he is devaluing it with this fake garbage. Some people like to take others at their word, and Mike is a great salesman. I'm sure in person it's a lot easier to be drawn in by his Reality Distortion Field. Other podcasters have said the same thing, basically something like "how did we look at that thing at the show and not realise what it was? It's like a carnival sideshow." 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikoInteractive Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I'd say more of an embarrassment than a bad ending. Maybe Piko was in on it? Maybe they just suckered? I don't really care. Well we are not really on anything; I posted before (on the very long post) We are not in the project at the moment, but we are not out of it. We just are. Our agreement were up to the KS (that we never signed); and the KS never came so ??? 8 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 The final Artie the Atari interview with the Coleco Chameleon: This episode, as well as the first and second multi-part interviews with the RetroVGS/Chameleon are posted in my blog. 21 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_convoy Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Speaking seriously for a sec; You can call it personal attacks or dogpiling or a witch hunt or whatever. You can go on about how the project is over (for now) and "why is this thread still going" and so on. The fact remains that we were able to come together and to bust (repeatedly) what surely started off as a well intentioned (if implausible) idea that slowly morphed into, let's be honest here, and call a spade a spade, a scam. Even if it was just "I'm going to show those guys, look no SNES mini, hahaha," the facebook pictures absolutely prove that he was attempting to deceive. Period. Even if the other various attempts weren't enough for you to prove that something was amiss, this was a flat out lie. It wasn't Mike being scammed by yet another hardware guy or being overzealous about sending emails to Konami. Again, anyone blindly defending this or reporting about it without an ounce of critical thinking should be ashamed of themselves. Critical thinking is never bad. Questioning the logic behind actions is never wrong. It's okay to doubt, it's okay to question. It's good to keep looking for answers. It's sad that this debacle has ruined real life friendships, but there's really only one person to blame for that. The important thing is that we were able, as a community, to repulse an attempt to take advantage of us and, more importantly, those who are not as plugged in as we are. We need to be able to question and critically think and to share what we think with each other. It's good to have a forum to do that in. 20 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leods Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 If you're interested, I did an interview with Mike for Classic Video Gamer circa 2009 which you can read here. People talk about how Mike used to be awesome, but in this interview he Sounds so much like the Mike of today... 5 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 So uhh.. what is the Facebook page for this thing anyway? Anyone got a url? Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickcris Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 So uhh.. what is the Facebook page for this thing anyway? Anyone got a url? https://www.facebook.com/RETROVGS prepare to have your balls blown off! 10 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_convoy Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/RETROVGS prepare to have your balls blown off! And debuffed, hopefully. I could use a nice debuffing. 11 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
galax Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 So uhh.. what is the Facebook page for this thing anyway? Anyone got a url? Strangely you can't find it on Facebook by searching for Coleco Chamaeleon, or even Retro VGS, you have to search for "Retro Video Game Systems". 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I was going to rend movies today but this thread is more entertainment. It's more like watching a movie in live. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
galax Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 The important thing is that we were able, as a community, to repulse an attempt to take advantage of us and, more importantly, those who are not as plugged in as we are. We need to be able to question and critically think and to share what we think with each other. It's good to have a forum to do that in. Yep, that's why I finally jumped in and subscribed, as my way of saying thanks to Albert for providing such a great resource: http://atariage.com/forums/page/subscriptions- I can't imagine how much bandwidth I've used in the last few months just hitting reload when this thread catches fire. I have also put my money into a MiST, a real working non-vaporware SD-based FPGA computer/console. Designed and built by talented people for the joy of creating something cool and not just to fleece us all for as many dollars as possible: http://www.lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=96 If Kevtris's FPGA machine gets manufactured I'd have room for that at home too. 8 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Im putting 50 internet pounds on his dog ate the prototype It needs the protein - all that surfing. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxtheowl Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Maybe Philips went about the home console market all wrong. Instead of focusing on the CD-i, they should have focused on the Hicap50B. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittybot Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 At this point if Coleco Holdings doesn't publicly distance themselves from this debacle then I will consider the brand forever sullied and will have nothing to do with them anymore. I just want to say good job to those who found out the truth about the board and I hope Coleco Holdings does the right thing. Although I am partly curious to see if Mike Kennedy will attempt something else. I think Gamester81 needs to do the same thing. Apologize and pull all "support" (like Sydney Hunter is really gonna appear on a capture card)... this whole debacle makes CollectorVision look bad. I won't even support the SNES/Genesis versions of this game if John Lester continues to promote and defend Mike Kennedy. 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_convoy Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yep, that's why I finally jumped in and subscribed, as my way of saying thanks to Albert for providing such a great resource: http://atariage.com/forums/page/subscriptions- I can't imagine how much bandwidth I've used in the last few months just hitting reload when this thread catches fire. I have also put my money into a MiST, a real working non-vaporware SD-based FPGA computer/console. Designed and built by talented people for the joy of creating something cool and not just to fleece us all for as many dollars as possible: http://www.lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=96 If Kevtris's FPGA machine gets manufactured I'd have room for that at home too. Good idea; I've surely gobbled my share of bandwidth. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntellivisionDude Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Here is our new model of the Chameleon. We decided to scrap the other one completely. We have opted for a plug n play design. Just wait till you see what this one can do. Prepare to be Dazzled 16 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 ... this whole debacle makes CollectorVision look bad. Aware me on this. I haven't seen where CollectorVision was rushing to the defense of this project. I may have missed something but from what I did see they seemed pretty neutral. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Aware me on this. I haven't seen where CollectorVision was rushing to the defense of this project. I may have missed something but from what I did see they seemed pretty neutral. Jean-François Dupuis of CollectorVision has been pretty strident in defending the RVGS/Chameleon team. See his comments in response to this post by Triverse: Jean-François Dupuis: No matter what people says, the Chameleon is REAL! Once you'll see their Kickstarter, you'll change your mindThe Chameleon is a whole lot different than what the RetroVGS wasNow, need proofs? Be patient, you'll soon have it Jean-François Dupuis: Let's just say this..... I know what tons of people wants to know Thing is I'm under NDA , so I just can't reveal anythingYou'll probably all get your answers this week Jean-François Dupuis: Let's just say, from what I know, it's going to be awesome! I seriously can't wait! So he's another drinker of the "just you wait, because all will be revealed soon and you'll all change your minds because it will be totally awesome!" Kool-Aid. He's got some explaining to do, too. 12 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_convoy Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Absolutely someone else who should be ashamed of their white knighting. 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Maybe it is real, but we cannot see it? Its a Chameleon after all! 3 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page/161/#findComment-3454992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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